Parker Hale M85 Serial Number Checks & Provenance on Manufacture (Records)

[rgg_7]

Can you post a picture of the receiver showing the serial number and proof marks? How is barrel marked? Ron (Canada)

[_USER_]

Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post

your rifle R33434 was a Canadian contract C3 which was traded back to PH (towards a C3A1) in approx. 1990, refurbished and sold commercially.

Your rifle would have originally shipped to Canada in approx. 1973-75

So what is this rifle technically speaking now a C3 or a M82 ?

There are no Canadian markings on the rifle but I have to check back this.

[Gil Boyd]

In that case it was probably one that was awaiting conversion and is an M82 unless stamps say otherwise IMHO

[rgg_7]

USER - can answer your question on whether it's a M82 or a C3. Detailed pictures are a must. You need to tell us the barrel markings. Need to see the serial number. Is the rifle imperial or metric proofed? This info along with the calibre will be on the left side of the barrel. Also if you show us the build date on the barrel it will confirm year of manufacture. It is quite possible that you have a C3 receiver repurposed to a M82 and maybe the barrel is original. C3 receiver do exist. Ron(Canada)

[Lee Enfield]

USER - can answer your question on whether it's a M82 or a C3. Detailed pictures are a must. You need to tell us the barrel markings. Need to see the serial number. Is the rifle imperial or metric proofed? This info along with the calibre will be on the left side of the barrel. Also if you show us the build date on the barrel it will confirm year of manufacture. It is quite possible that you have a C3 receiver repurposed to a M82 and maybe the barrel is original. C3 receiver do exist. Ron(Canada)

Ron, a C3 and an M82 are the same gun - and both of them are 1200TX rifles with a slightly different stock (slightly different contour, cross bolt and length of pull plates).

To reduce the confusion as to what a C3 rifle is please review the following:

Manufacturer Number: 1200TXCDN,
Description: Rifle 7.62 MM C3
Attachment 99022
Interesting that they cost the Canadian Gov't $244.40 each

"...Rifle C3 is a ...Model 82.. with a 1200TX barrel.."
Attachment 99023

[mossin]

can there any other rifles in the list with a similar quote

Originally Posted by Lee Enfield View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post

your rifle R33434 was a Canadian contract C3 which was traded back to PH (towards a C3A1) in approx. 1990, refurbished and sold commercially.

Your rifle would have originally shipped to Canada in approx. 1973-75

[mforow]

hy Gil
i found a parker hale M82/C3A1 numbered R-22814 chambered 7,62 mm, fitted with a pecar 4-10x45 scope.
i kindly ask if you can research that number in your archive to know if the rifle was a military one or not
thanks in advance
miche

[Gil Boyd]

Miche,
Your rifle is an M82 Serial number R-22814 was not part of the C3A1 contract.
It was sold to Mr T Hallam at Charnwood Ordnance on the 5th November 1996 in 7.62 no scope fitted.
Hope that helps
Gil

[mforow]

so this means that the rifle was never in use to canadian military forces?

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thanks a lot

[Lee Enfield]

hy Gil
i found a parker hale M82/C3A1 numbered R-22814 chambered 7,62 mm, fitted with a pecar 4-10x45 scope.
i kindly ask if you can research that number in your archive to know if the rifle was a military one or not
thanks in advance
miche

R-22814 would have been very close serial number proximity to known "C3" / "1200TXCDN" contract rifles.
and originally shipped approx. 1974-75

Miche,
Your rifle is an M82 Serial number R-22814 was not part of the C3A1 contract.
It was sold to Mr T Hallam at York Arms on the 5th November 1996 in 7.62 no scope fitted.
Hope that helps
Gil

Hello Gil,
Can you clarify your answer?

Do you have the serial numbers of all of the approx. 500 "C3" ("1200TXCDN") rifles returned to Parker-Hale in exchange for the "C3A1" ("M87") rifles?