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    Picked up a decent M41

    It's been a while since I've had a Carcano, a few years back I sold the handful I had to a fellow collector to fund something else. That being said, there seems to be a bit of a resurgence in interest in these rifles starting, perhaps b/c they are among the few affordable WW2 milsurps left, and perhaps also due to more ppl getting into reloading as other once-common calibre's dry up.

    Anyhow, I bought this one sight unseen apart from a couple grainy photos off a classified ad. I'm rather pleased with what turned up, a decent FAT42 that looks to be un-messed with since being refurbished at Terni in 1947.

    The rifle came to me really dirty with grime and dust from likely being in a closet a LONG time. Not import marked. The only mechanical fault was that the 2nd stage of the trigger was not working, the sear was tripping prematurely. This turned out to just be a stacking of tolerances issue, no doubt related to less then ideal mating of parts in '47. In the end, I had a couple extra WW2 era cocking pieces in my spares bin, and the last one I tried had a sear engagement that was a hair on the long end of tolerance, which restored the 2nd stage perfectly. I ALWAYS pays to have spares at times like this - lol.

    The bore looked pretty awful when I got it, but as it turns out, somewhere along the line someone shot a bunch of cast through it that filled up the grooves. After more than a few soaks in foaming bore cleaner, some brush scrubbing and lots of patches, plenty of crisp rifling with minimal wear greeted me. The lands are sharp and shiny, the grooves are a little frosted, but not too bad. Probably above average for most carcanos I see.



    Still have to shoot it, but I still had a good many reloads from my last Carcano on-hand. Graf brass loaded with .268 Hornady 160gn pills backed by 27 grains of H4895 and WLR primers. Should be fun to shoot. I still have a handful of 1930's dated brass carcano chargers here as well, which helps

    What do you guys think of this one?




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    That's one of the nicest M41's I've seen in a long time. Does it by chance have the crossed rifles accuracy marking on the right side of the chamber?
    Despite the popular misconception of being inaccurate they can turn in some impressive groups with carefully worked up handloads using the .268'' Hornady bullets.
    I chose AA4064 for mine. It was one of the powders listed on the load data slip supplied with the first batch of early .268 bullets I bought. Forgot the charge weight now and it's been several years since I last shot it but provided I did my part it had no troubles putting 6 shots in an inch and a half group at 100yds, several were closer to one and a quarter.
    The early bullets had no crimp grove and measured exactly .268'' but I noticed the last lot I bought a couple years ago now have the groove and the diameter measures slightly over 267'' Haven't shot any of these yet.

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    No, it's not Tiro a Segno Nacionale marked - sadly. It's still a well above average M41 though, happy to have acquired it
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    It's one of the nicest I've seen in a while also. These aren't real high on my priority list but if I find one for the right price I'd pick it up. Auction from hell had one the day I bought my Vetterli and it was mis-matched, not the best bore, and just didn't look right. Someone messed with it and they bid that thing up over $300 if I recall correctly.

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    Very nice rifle. Most of the better looking ones also seem to have a "Made in Italyicon" marking on one side of the stock.





    The last M41 I looked at had been treated cruelly, stock cut and the metal painted, but it had the crossed rifles. Just not sure it's worth the trouble to attempt putting it back into a more presentable configuration...
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    Decent? Your standards are much higher than mine. Very nice rifle thanks for the great photos.

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    I never saw one marked Made in Italyicon on the stock although I have seen that on the receiver. Kind of a turn off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    I never saw one marked Made in Italy on the stock although I have seen that on the receiver.
    Have two in captivity. Apparently done concurrently with or just after Post-WWII Italianicon rebuild for export to the US, etc.

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    For some reason, a lot of them have "made in Italyicon" stamped on the receiver or wood. Luckily, this one does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claven2 View Post
    It's been a while since I've had a Carcano, a few years back I sold the handful I had to a fellow collector to fund something else. That being said, there seems to be a bit of a resurgence in interest in these rifles starting, perhaps b/c they are among the few affordable WW2 milsurps left, and perhaps also due to more ppl getting into reloading as other once-common calibre's dry up.

    Anyhow, I bought this one sight unseen apart from a couple grainy photos off a classified ad. I'm rather pleased with what turned up, a decent FAT42 that looks to be un-messed with since being refurbished at Terni in 1947.

    The rifle came to me really dirty with grime and dust from likely being in a closet a LONG time. Not import marked. The only mechanical fault was that the 2nd stage of the trigger was not working, the sear was tripping prematurely. This turned out to just be a stacking of tolerances issue, no doubt related to less then ideal mating of parts in '47. In the end, I had a couple extra WW2 era cocking pieces in my spares bin, and the last one I tried had a sear engagement that was a hair on the long end of tolerance, which restored the 2nd stage perfectly. I ALWAYS pays to have spares at times like this - lol.

    The bore looked pretty awful when I got it, but as it turns out, somewhere along the line someone shot a bunch of cast through it that filled up the grooves. After more than a few soaks in foaming bore cleaner, some brush scrubbing and lots of patches, plenty of crisp rifling with minimal wear greeted me. The lands are sharp and shiny, the grooves are a little frosted, but not too bad. Probably above average for most carcanos I see.

    Still have to shoot it, but I still had a good many reloads from my last Carcano on-hand. Graf brass loaded with .268 Hornady 160gn pills backed by 27 grains of H4895 and WLR primers. Should be fun to shoot. I still have a handful of 1930's dated brass carcano chargers here as well, which helps

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    Nice M41. I picked one up myself a few years ago at a pawn shop, They wanted 140 but i got it for 100. Mines a FAT 43 that was in pretty rough condition, the stock was dried out and most of the wood marks are non existant (I think it was re-arsenaled but i cant be 100% it also isn't import marked now (if it was in the wood its gone). Metal wise, the finish is decent but worn in places and some of the fittings were and still are a little loose (more to do with the stock and handguard which also has shrunk and loose fitting). However I figured the bore was good since it is Tiro a Segno Nacionale marked and the bore and action parts were still full of cosmolineicon. It is a very accurate rifle and you should enjoy yours.

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