m1917 bolt stuck after firing a 30-06

[joachimvdr]

hello,

Today a Fired for the first time my m1917 after a gunsmidt told me it was safe to fire. At first the round did not enter very well in the chamber, after opening the bolt and closing it again the round enterd the chamber. I pulled the trigger, the gun fired and I cheked the target to see if the round had left the gun, with it did. Now I wanted to open the bolt and I cant turn it al the way up. After closing it a few times it turned all the way up but the round stayed in the chamber as I pulled the bolt backwards. I pushed the bolt back to the closed possition with using force but now its again not turing enough to pull it back. What can I do, What would the problem be?

The received is stamped m1917 and the bolt for me is the correct one...

thx a lot for any help.

joachim

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[flygrimm]

I would continue to try to open the bolt like before. If the spent case remains in the chamber after getting the bolt open, remove the bolt and tap out the case with a rod and a wood or rubber mallet. Then run, don't walk, back to the gunsmith and have the chamber cast. Remember that a lot of these rifles were modified to shoot other cartridges after being surplussed due in part to the robustness of the M1917/P14.

Stuart

hello,

Today a Fired for the first time my m1917 after a gunsmidt told me it was safe to fire. At first the round did not enter very well in the chamber, after opening the bolt and closing it again the round enterd the chamber. I pulled the trigger, the gun fired and I cheked the target to see if the round had left the gun, with it did. Now I wanted to open the bolt and I cant turn it al the way up. After closing it a few times it turned all the way up but the round stayed in the chamber as I pulled the bolt backwards. I pushed the bolt back to the closed possition with using force but now its again not turing enough to pull it back. What can I do, What would the problem be?

The received is stamped m1917 and the bolt for me is the correct one...

thx a lot for any help.

joachim

[OLDER THEN DIRT]

First off, the 1917 is a control feed Mauser style bolt. You have to put the round in the mag well & then the bolt will pick it up & lock onto it & feed it into the chamber. After you fire it the bolt is still locked onto the MT brass & it will pull it out & eject it. If you just push the round in the chamber the bolt can really lock onto it. That`s why you are having trouble closing the bolt. If you have a push feed bolt, which a lot of non Mauser style bolt guns have, you can just push the round in & the bolt will close on it.

[Chuckindenver]

use a steel 30 cal cleaning rod, and drop it down the muzzle, knock the case out.
more info is needed.
factory or hand load.
did this gunsmith check headspace?
did this gunsmith check the cal,?
did this gunsmith check the bolt face for problems?
what bolt is in the rifle, markings, extractor ect..
is this rifle still in its original trim??

[joachimvdr]

hello,

thx for the advises, I'll take some pictures tonight after I got the case out. The gunsmith took it in his workspace that is off limits to the public so I'll ask him just what he inspected.

thx a lot,

joachim

[Randy A]

Probably better yet, take it to him as it is. A stuck cartridge doesn't necessarily mean bad headspace, there are several possibilities.

[joachimvdr]

hello,

got the case out, to me the chamber is pikket and when fired it took form in all these small holes... what to do looking for a new barrel or polisch the chamber?

thx,

joachim

[CINDERS]

I think the bulk of the forum will say perhaps a new barrel as if it is that pitted the case wont eject you may have to remove to much stuff and end up with a large chamber, I had it happen to me with a 303 rifle I brought first round I fired jammed in the chamber solid end result new barrel.

Best any weapon you buy have it checked by another gunsmith other than the one your buying it off, I do that even with new rifles.

[browningautorifle]

Agreed with Cinders, if the chamber is pitted, the barrel is hooped. If it as in the armory, and went through an inspection to be found pitted or rusted, it would be a death knell for the barrel. It would be scrapped I think...

[joachimvdr]

ok thx for the advise.

grts,

joachim