+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: PPco Occular Housing thread

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    AlphaMic13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Last On
    03-17-2014 @ 02:33 PM
    Location
    uk
    Posts
    14
    Real Name
    Mac
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    04:43 AM

    PPco Occular Housing thread

    Hi Guys

    Recently been given the opportunity to buy a couple of PPco scope parts. Its something I don't really want to pass ip on as spares are hard to come by. One of the scopes the long cone version has a crushed ocular housing but the tube and internals are in very good condition. The other scope is a earlier stepped cone but the tube is rotten and some internal parts are missing but the ocular housing is in great condition. Between the two you could make one good scope so my question is are the two ocular housings interchangeable? Will the stepped cone housing fit on a long cone tube and would it be functional optically.

    would be interesting to know before I cross anyone's palm with silver.

    Regards

    MAC
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.
    Last edited by AlphaMic13; 03-10-2014 at 05:14 PM.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Advisory Panel
    Peter Laidler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    04-13-2024 @ 05:00 AM
    Location
    Abingdon, Oxfordshire. The home of MG Cars
    Posts
    16,510
    Real Name
    Peter Laidler
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    05:43 AM
    If I was you I'd try them - or ask him to try it before you buy. I would imagine that they're interchangeable - theoretically! But whether they will be in practice is quite another matter, as we quickly learn with the No32 telescopes. Same drawing, different rulers as we used to say!

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    AlphaMic13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Last On
    03-17-2014 @ 02:33 PM
    Location
    uk
    Posts
    14
    Real Name
    Mac
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    04:43 AM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    If I was you I'd try them - or ask him to try it before you buy. I would imagine that they're interchangeable - theoretically! But whether they will be in practice is quite another matter, as we quickly learn with the No32 telescopes. Same drawing, different rulers as we used to say!
    Hi Peter

    thanks for reply.. I did ask that but the guy stated that the ocular housing was stuck and essentially its sold as is.. I get the impression he isnt willing to mess around with it. I do have another long cone version but i can't undo the ocular housing on that either and id rather not mess with it as its optically excellent..for a 100 yr old scope that is and id rather just leave as is.

    So id be happy to hear from anyone who has both and is willing to see if both housings are interchangeable.

    Regards

    Mac

  6. #4
    Advisory Panel
    Peter Laidler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    04-13-2024 @ 05:00 AM
    Location
    Abingdon, Oxfordshire. The home of MG Cars
    Posts
    16,510
    Real Name
    Peter Laidler
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    05:43 AM
    Like I said........... Even if the 'anyone else' has a pair that fits/matches, the same No32 rules apply. HIS might, but your's might not. Same drawing, different rulers! Have you ever tried to fit different manufacturers ocular lens counter cells? Or what about cursor slides?....... Sorry, just the pessimist but REALISTIC pessimist in me!

  7. #5
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    AlphaMic13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Last On
    03-17-2014 @ 02:33 PM
    Location
    uk
    Posts
    14
    Real Name
    Mac
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    04:43 AM
    Thread Starter
    Thanks for reply Peter

    Re counter cells, cursor slides and ocular housings.. quick answer no.

    Not really an option with a S&B. If we did have issues which was rare we used to send them back with the long to Guys like you to deal with.

    Though we are talking much more modern optics in that scenario.

    I agree regarding your No32 rules.. perhaps I should have re worded it and asked if anyone has had any success interchanging them rather than if they are interchangeable I guess I will have to buy blind and take my chances.

    Thanks for heads up, at least I know there is a possibility either side.

    Regards

    MAC

  8. #6
    Advisory Panel
    Peter Laidler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    04-13-2024 @ 05:00 AM
    Location
    Abingdon, Oxfordshire. The home of MG Cars
    Posts
    16,510
    Real Name
    Peter Laidler
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    05:43 AM
    The best - or worst, depending on your point of view - was the OG ray shade at the end of the No32/42/53/71tube. You have a job getting any of them to fit another scope.

  9. #7
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    AlphaMic13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Last On
    03-17-2014 @ 02:33 PM
    Location
    uk
    Posts
    14
    Real Name
    Mac
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    04:43 AM
    Thread Starter
    Oh yes... I have had various different spares including objective ray sheilds and ocular lens rings to name but a few for the 32scope in the parts bin of my fathers place, Many different makes too and I know first hand that a lot of the visually identical parts annoyingly don't fit other No32 scopes. Too be honest I didn't realise that this would be a potential issue with the PPco ocular housings as it was only made by PPco and no other contractor and seemingly used a standard thread but as you say you can never tell.

    regards

    mac

  10. #8
    Advisory Panel Simon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    02-22-2023 @ 07:49 AM
    Location
    Planet Earth
    Posts
    585
    Real Name
    SIMON
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    11:43 PM
    I'll check a few of mine out for you when I get home later but if memory serves they are actually interchangeable.

    Cheers,

    Simon.

  11. #9
    Advisory Panel
    Peter Laidler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    04-13-2024 @ 05:00 AM
    Location
    Abingdon, Oxfordshire. The home of MG Cars
    Posts
    16,510
    Real Name
    Peter Laidler
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    05:43 AM
    The trouble comes not when they actually screw in, but when they screw in LOOSE. That way you effectively have a prismatic lens and if you have a prismatic lens or in our scenario, a lens that moves, albeit very slightly, then all is lost

  12. #10
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    AlphaMic13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Last On
    03-17-2014 @ 02:33 PM
    Location
    uk
    Posts
    14
    Real Name
    Mac
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    04:43 AM
    Thread Starter
    Guys thanks for all your replies I do appreciate it. With peters advice at least we know what to potentially expect and with this in mind Simon I'm sure you will be ultra careful when attempting to trial it after all these things aren't exactly growing on trees.

    Many thanks

    Mac

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. PPCo Mounts
    By Roger Payne in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 09-12-2015, 05:27 AM
  2. Long Coned PPCo.
    By AlphaMic13 in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 02-12-2014, 05:56 PM
  3. PPCo lenses
    By Peter Laidler in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 07-10-2012, 04:00 AM
  4. PPCo Scope
    By Devils Own in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 05-22-2011, 12:41 AM
  5. No.3 Mk1*(T)A with PPCo scope
    By Nigel in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 01-31-2011, 07:27 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts