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    Rare WWI Italian Cutdown 1871 Bayonet Questions??

    Hey guys,
    I have been an observe of this forum for a long time. Never joined until now though. Which is kind of surprising because I am a huge milsurp fan. Especially with regards to the Garandicon. However today's question pertains to bayonets from the boot (Italy). I know a fair amount about bayonets, and its just enough to get me into trouble really. I have found what appears to be an 1871 sword bayonet that was cut down during WWI out of necessity and little time. What has led me to believe this is the fact that it still has a quillion and bears none of the manufacturing marks commonly found in the WWII ere bayonets. All that is on the bayonet is a small symbol next to the serial number, and a B on the top edge of the blade. It has the correct leather and brass sheath for a WWI cutdown, and I am convinced due to some pictures I found on an Italianicon site about bayonets of Italy google translated for me. It still has the quillion of a sword. I cannot find any direct examples of this anywhere because it was standard procedure for the arsenals to remove the old sword quillion and replace with a modern looking hand guard. I also noted that it can take a T as well as a spike bayonet lug.

    So my questions are is this a standard variation meant for a smaller unit type. Perhaps it was for cavalry troops and cavalry Carcano's? Is it just a rare variant that ended up a little different than the rest? Or is it a different bayonet all together from a different country? I am gonna tack on some pictures for you guys to visually see what I am talking about. And what is the relative value of something like this?

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    Looks to be a mauser bayonet, not Italianicon, probably Brazilianicon although without photos of the entire bayonet, hard to tell.

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    Definitely Brazilianicon, model of 1908.

    Not very rare, not very expensive. One of my more recent purchases and I think I picked it up off ebay for about $45.

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    As Aragorn said, Brazilianicon M1908 and quite common on the collector's market.

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    Thanks for clearing that one up for me. I had gravitated towards Italyicon due to the leather scabbard. That is what I will list it as. Again thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciate it.

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    this is not cut down, not sure why you thought it was the fullers stop well before the tip, in a cut down they will run right through the point, also the quillion shape is completely wrong for the Italianicon 1870/71's. You can see both the Brazilians and Italians (full and cut down ) at http://www.old-smithy,info

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