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    IBM "presentation" carbine

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    Just landed the last M1 Carbine off of Line #2 at IBM in 1944

    and the photos:
    https://plus.google.com/photos/11044...CL6vxN7D76KAKA

    Seems legit, but how about that finish?
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    I took a look at the links provided and read some of the discussion. Personally, I would be a bit concerned - especially when you compare it to the other presentation Carbine shown in the Rock Island Auction. I'm interested to see what others here have to say. - Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    I took a look at the links provided and read some of the discussion. Personally, I would be a bit concerned - especially when you compare it to the other presentation Carbine shown in the Rock Island Auction. I'm interested to see what others here have to say. - Bob
    Bob please see my PM on the carbine.

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    I think I have seen that Carbine at a show here in Ohio, if it's not that one then the one I saw was darn near the same. Don't remember who it was presented to, but it was aussme !!

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    it was on a internet site for sale for a while--looks orig to me, i have one about like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkgmadmax View Post
    Bob please see my PM on the carbine.
    Sorry, just now got around to replying to your PM. - Bob

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    The information on the other forum is wrong about the bolt with a X on it. The X on the bolt does not mean it was pulled from production for testing. While this did happen with some makers it was not done at IBM. The X meant that the bolt did not have all of the latest updates on it and that is all. Found on type 3 bolts made around January 1944.

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    I'm curious about the sling - does it happen to be stamped IBM on the back? Thanks! - Bob

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    War Baby: 6 or more presentation carbines were given to IBM employees.
    Notice on the 2 linked here that 1 has the type II band, the other a Type I ?

    I like the type II band one the best.
    Very nice grab!

    Thx for sharing this.

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    Thanks you guys for the comments. I have been working with the IBM Archives Department over the past couple of weeks; they graciously proved me with a lot of history on IBM's war efforts, including several lines of munitions that were produced there. I have posted some nice quality pictures they dug out and burned on a CD for me. They also provided information on the employee R.L. Surface who was originally presented the carbine too. There was a conflict in some information regarding the IBM Plant number in Poughkeepsie where the carbines were produced, there were 2 plants there, Plant #4 & Plant #2, my carbine was produced in Plant #2 for which I now have a picture of. Larry Ruth's books make no mention of a Plant #2 in Poughkeepsie, only Plany #4 which has caused me some sleepless nights I would love to contact Larry to share some of the rich information IBM has provided me.

    Pictures can be seen here courtesy of the IBM Archives Department.

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