M1 Safety

[imntxs554]

Okay...I was reading in the Book in 45 possibly 2-45 they switched to the flip safety. I have 1-45 6,78x, xxx with the push button but also the extra parts i was given has a Flip Safety inside the bag, could anyone weigh in on this. If this information is incorrect im sorry, but thats what i have, also i was in another forum and i was discussing this and was told it changed in late 44. I have the flip safety that came with the M1. Is there a site or maybe here on assembling or disassembling. There had to be a reason this part came with the M1 and if it was on there i would like to put it back on, Thank You

Frank

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[browningautorifle]

This is a set of diagrams which is easier than listening to some of these vids drag on and on... http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/carbinetriggergroup.htm

[imntxs554]

Thanks Jim....I got it

[Bruce McAskill]

The push safety would most likely be correct for your carbine. The flip safety didn't start with Inland and Winchester till about spring 1945. A bit after your carbine was made.

[imntxs554]

The Inland Section On page 352 in War Baby says Type B (Rotary) used from Mid 1944 to end of Production, before that it was Type A was Push, Thanks

Then if the book was wrong i'll put it back. I have '45

Frank

[Bill Hollinger]

There is misinformation and misleading information in just about all the books published. The mid 1944 date would be when it was written in for change however the push safety would not have been scrapped just to bring the rotary into use. Remember that rotary safety would still have to be produced and shipped also. Think of the thousands of push safeties in the assembly area bins. They'd use them up before bringing in the rotary or try to anyway. It is even quite possible that a mixture of the two was in use simply because of the FILO/LIFO factor. The spring of 1945 as Bruce posted would be a more realistic time frame for the standard use of the rotary or "flip" safety.

[Neal Myers]

There are safeties, & then there are safeties. Frank, sounds like you are ready to invest in a book. Let me suggest "US M1 Carbines, Wartime Production" by Craig Riesch. < $20.

Neal

[Bill Hollinger]

Great suggestion Neal.

Just remember there are many mistakes in Riesch's book but it makes a great pocket reference when at gun shows. Most of the mistakes can be easily corrected with notes in the borders and plank spaces.

Larry Ruth's books are probably the best source of information that is mostly correct. Down side is it's kind of difficult to stash War Baby in your back pocket when at the shows.

[imntxs554]

Thanks Neal, thats one book i haven't bought yet, i already bought 4, but its sounds feasible that the order to changed was in that time line but not changed physically, but when i bought the rifle the guy told me " i have the flip safety for it that i took off and its in the bag" i was looking on Google image just to take a look at some 45's and there mixed, some with it and some without it, but since im never going to sell MY first M1 wartime rifle not including my grandads Winchester. Mine is 45 Hand Stamped 1 and all parts ive compared to a couple of books i have, i think i will just leave it there, its not going to any competition, but im very familiar with it since ive had my 78 Iver my dad bought back in 78 had a flip i got used to it, but Thanks Everyone for the help i really appreciate it. Thank You Guys

Frank

Note: The information i read was Larry Ruth's Book War Baby, thats where i saw they had used flip safeties in mid June '44 till end of Production mine is 1-45, I just thougt that War Baby was good source about this information. Thanks

[imntxs554]

You know when i got BIT by the M1 bug May of this year i didnt have any information about what to look for, i just wanted an Inland and found one for sale here about 40 miles from my house. It looked good, came with so much and over 800 rounds of ammo a utica Bayonet. I think for my first buy it wasnt a bad one thanks to the fellows here telling me about it when Bill showed me how to post pics, but im always looking forward for some positive feedback and help, Thanks

Frank