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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaforth72 View Post
    Scopes can become damaged or lost in service, so one would reasonably expect a supply of spare scopes and parts. A spare scope # 4430S was sent to the UK along with a test rifle 74L0022 with scope 4419S and scope (re: Peter Laidlericon above). We have all seen how scopes were so often changed on No. 4 sniper rifles and the normal No. 32 scopes have a great reputation for toughness.

    Only 351 Lyman scopes were ordered by Canadaicon ( the 1943 trials one and 350 production models) (pp. 43 & 46 "Without Warning" by C. Law reference to the trials and the contract). Either there was a second contract for some spare scopes or fewer than 350 sniping rigs were assembled so as to leave some spare scopes.

    Does anyone have any thoughts or even better, facts regarding these spare No. 32 (TP) Mk. I scopes?

    Does anyone know what the "S" at the end of the serial number stood for? e.g. 4407S followed by a /|\ (though some did not have a broad arrow) which was not part of the serial number.

    Thank you Peter for the information on the caps being standard Alaskan caps.
    The Transit chest for this rifle 74L0022 has just shown up on a Britishicon dealer's site with a Deactivated LB No4T (claimed to be) it has an 88L prefix, could this be correct? Full serial number looks to be 88L1672

    The scope is a HBM & Co Mk1 Serial Number 4842

    For info, should anyone have 74L0022

    https://www.dandbmilitaria.com/deact...le-set-sn-1612

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    The chest is a converted Bren which happened early in the war, but by the end? The chest markings also are non-standard, but then I have never seen a TP sniper chest.

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    More photo's would have been nice but the rifle is almost certainly wrong. The front pad looks like it may well be original but rather a take off from a late war BSA rifle. The rear pad also shows a considerable gap along its lower edge, again perhaps consistent with a set of pads off a Britishicon rifle (radiused receiver ledge) retrofitted to a Canadianicon (angled receiver ledge) rifle, The scope is original but refurbished. The bracket is an old one of mine. In one batch I did the machinist I employed stamped the circular witness mark across the bracket at the point where the casting was to be slit to separate the rear top clamp - the two ellipses remaining can still be clearly seen. As I've noticed a few times before when brackets crop up after the event it has not been fettled up properly to give a reasonable surface finish & is probably one I sold to someone in the trade for them to finish off themselves.

    Like Lance I've never seen a TP transit chest, at least that I can remember......

    NB. Bear in mind that the above is only my opinion on the rifle, & even if I am correct I am not in any way suggesting the vendor is knowingly selling a fake sniper's rifle. As mentioned above more detailed pix would help....
    Last edited by Roger Payne; 01-16-2021 at 03:24 PM. Reason: corrected ambiguity

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    A snip at £8495.00 !

    Caveat Emptor

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    The Canadianicon 32 TP sniper configuration used the standard no.15 chest, and only the scope can was different.
    I have a TP scope can here if no one has seen one.

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    Got a can Warren - mismatched but correct, but my rifle never came with the transit chest. It was Rob Hallam's & was imported from Collector's Source for his (Charnwood's) collection, before I bought it from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren View Post
    The Canadianicon 32 TP sniper configuration used the standard no.15 chest, and only the scope can was different.
    I have a TP scope can here if no one has seen one.
    I'm still hunting for a can for mine Warren when you want to part with her!!

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    Same source is now selling an 'L42A1' with No.32 Mk2 scope etc.

    https://www.dandbmilitaria.com/deact...-rifle-sn-5469

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy W View Post
    Same source is now selling an 'L42A1' with No.32 Mk2 scope etc.

    https://www.dandbmilitaria.com/deact...-rifle-sn-5469
    SAD !

    On the positive side - One more neutered rifle increase the value of my 'live one'.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    SAD !

    On the positive side - One more neutered rifle increase the value of my 'live one'.
    No fear, it wouldn't even pass inspection by a blind man as a L42. The only interesting aspect, other than the 1955 dated No.8 Case, is the "ZA" marking below the boltway so proudly outlined in white.

    Besides the impudence of describing such an assemblage as a genuine L42, what strikes me is they would probably have made more money selling the parts individually!

    No point helping the next such project by enumerating all that's wrong with this one though!

    The Enfield Envoy magazine mentioned presumably has the E___ number engraved on the bottom. The Stirling 7.62mm mag is a mystery.

    Interesting spiral groove in the outside of the barrel - out of some factory seconds bin?!
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