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    OK, got it. I didn't realize there were two types of square pattern Inland buttplates. I have a 476K and a 5.4M and both have the earlier square pattern. Thanks! - Bob
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    The early diagonal pattern was not the only early Inland butt plate used. So there are at least three dot patterns used by Inland. Other manufacturers had multiplies of butt plates also. Less common so they are not shown in the books. Too much risk of printing something wrong so only what is "really proven" is published. So the books have errors of omission, not showing all possibilities, because too little is known. That is why there is so much confusion about them. Add in the replacement contracts and the un-clarity grows.
    That is what got JC into so much trouble. He printed what was believed at the time, but not really proven. He had too few a sub-set of carbines. The CC now has a hundred times the information he had when his book was printed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    I've been going by, if the circle is into the dots more at the bottom - it's late Winchester. If the circle is into the dots more at the top (and 6 dots in top row) - it's IBM. If the circle is evenly into the dots - it's Inland, from about 10K on. What's the one on p. 116 of Riesch's 6th edition? I've thought it to be late Winchester, maybe it's not? I've not seen a lot of Winchesters - but some pictured with buttplates having the circle into the dots more at the bottom. The answer might be that there's quite a bit of variation in the stamping of the Inland buttplates, but they are none the less, still Inland. - Bob
    Circle evenly covers dots on my 4.927 Inland w/OI stock.

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