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    The holes under the buttplate. They would be where the butt trap would be in there was a door in the butt plate. He means your op rod is later (3) and should be a revision 1 with no relief cut. There are lots of posts here with pics of gas trap parts to compare yours to. That will make it easier for you to understand yours is not complete...
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    late gas trap parts

    photo shows the revision 1 operating rod with both the comp and keystone springs which use the follower rod that is designed for these springs.

    also the front handguard ferrule has a lip used only with gas trap cylinders

    the Springfield butt plate is solid without a trap doorAttachment 61970Attachment 61971Attachment 61972

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    The OP is jerking our chains.
    He knows what he has.
    Pictures of the barrel with gas cylinder removed are great thanks, not something one gets to see every day.
    I see a broken op-rod spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    I see a broken op-rod spring.
    Yes, he mentioned that. Looks like two different ones screwed together.
    Regards, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    The OP is jerking our chains.
    He knows what he has.
    Pictures of the barrel with gas cylinder removed are great thanks, not something one gets to see every day.
    I see a broken op-rod spring.
    Chris
    I don't know that I would jump to that conclusion. I've been in constant contact and Jack seems to be a genuine guy who came to be in possession of this rifle quite innocently. I don't doubt he knows what he has now but I don't doubt for one minute he came into this with honest integrity regarding his questions about it.

    Jim, Jack is aware of the broken spring and all that has been done is the two halves were "screwed" together so it would stay in one piece.
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    Hello all. Sorry if I have offended anyone as that was not the intention. Honestly I did not even know what a "gas trap" was until a few weeks ago. I was just cleaning an old Garandicon, that my grandfather used to deer hunt with, getting it ready for our annual shooting and fishing trip. I noticed a few things that looked different and researched the serial number. Once I figured out what I had I started looking for some folks that maybe could help me out and wound up here.

    Here is what I have learned so far:

    Stock and Hand guards replaced
    Operating rod is a rev 3 but is uncut.
    Operating spring is obviously incorrect.
    Front ferule was replaced.
    Trigger housing assembly has been replaced.

    All information and comments are appreciated. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Hollinger View Post
    Jim, Jack is aware of the broken spring
    That's what I was pointing out to post #24.
    Regards, Jim

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    Jack, I don't believe you have offended anyone here at all. You have to understand that in the M1icon rifle collecting world you have just shown up with what many of us consider the holy grail of rifles albeit not 100% correct. I think I speak for everyone here in saying regardless of it's being not 100% I would be tickled pink having a rifle such as yours. Some folks are less believing than others I guess. I personally have no reason to believe you are anything but genuine in your inquiry regarding this rifle. Please don't let the "off the cuff" comment of one to influence you.

    It does give us here a glimmer of hope that one day we too may find in the back of grandpa's closet or stashed in the addict a Gas Trap M1 rifle like you have been fortunate enough the find.
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    In Pyle's book about the gas trap, he does a study on a rifle that came from a barrack, up in the rafters, in Hawaii... I picture a man hiding it there after the attack and intending to go back later when he had a chance. Next thing you know, he doesn't get back. The rifle is found decades later...always wanted something like that when I was in. He also points out this rifle was destroyed by explosion, presumably premature firing because of the broken round firing pin.

    OP states his rifle shoots wonderfully...would be worth his checking for a round firing pin. The bolt is early enough to PERHAPS have one. Unless he checks, he won't know.
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