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    Whats this Cartridge

    Thought I would have a guess the cartridge ? The one on the left is a .5 BMG what is the one on the Rt and what was it used for. (I sorta know what it is but would like to know if I have it right)
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    In case you do not know what an ONTOS is (Latin = Thing) armed with 6 recoiless rifles so here is a picture of one apparently when they cut loose with the splintex round it devastated a rather large front. I read in one report of the affects this weapon had that the darts had penetrated the receiver of an AK and pinned it to the VC's chest. The only issue was they had to retire to reload the weapons after expending them........

    The third pic is Top - Mk VII 303, Middle - 3" or 3.7" ? Rocket Dart, Bottom - Splintex dart
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    Spotting round for a 106 Recoilless Rifle. Used to sight in the target before firing the main gun.

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    Thanks Skip I had the right weapon and just one for those that know AFV's would they have this fitted to the ONTOS

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    We used to call the rifle the RIFLE, .50" Spotting, US pattern M8C'. It was a real thumper and in UKicon service they were fitted to our later Combat and Wombat anti tank guns. Before the M8C we had Brens fitted. The UK guns never belonged to us as they were all leased from the US under some sort of deal. The GOOD thing was that it was the only weapon that I have ever encountered where every part, even the 'master component' (the accountable, numbered part) was replaceable. This meant that if you were at a big Field (or base) workshop you could in theory make an M8C up from parts available from Ordnance. But how the xxxx would you use it - unless you had a Wombat! Imagine turning up for a range day with your shoulder fired .50" short spotting rifle armed with tracer/flash/bang projectiles!

    Talking of which, are the rounds still available?

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    some WW2 cartridges

    Here are three WW2 era cartridges that are all around 50 calAttachment 62369

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    .55 Boys on the left and the right is 12.7 Sovieticon the center...looks like a .50 but I don't think it is by your description...
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    Guess this one

    L - R I gather are as follows Boys .55 AT rifle most probably Kynoch manufacture, Middle BMG 50, Rt stab in the dark I do not recognize it may be Russianicon PTRD 14.5 mm AT rifle round ! markings are AP Incendiary ?

    Round on the Rt at the base is a Boys AT round the left one is somewhat larger........
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    WW2 era 50 cal cartridges

    They are the 55 Boys, 50 cal BMG and 12.7x108 mm Soviet

    The Boys was also used (limited) in the early days of WW2 by the USMC in the pacific tooAttachment 62373

    The 50 cal BMG is still used today

    The Soviet 12.7mm was a pre WW2 design, head stamp in photo is Chinese
    and this example came from Viet Nam. US nickname was 51 cal Russianicon

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    The Boys rifles used by the US Marines in the Pacific came from Australia where they used borrowed guns during training there. From there, they just did what Marines have done ever since they were founded............ Just took then for what we call 'long loan'. Paratroopers are just as bad.......

    When the Australianicon Military realised that these guns weren't coming back in a hurry and that they were now 'several hundred' (?) guns short needed for the imminent defence of the North, there was an urgent request to Britainicon to ship a quantity to Aust to replenish the losses but BSA had or were about to cease production

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Paratroopers are just as bad.......
    Um...You're one of those...?
    Regards, Jim

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