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    Just follow the link atop of the pictures of this scope can, it leads here: No 8 Mk1 Carry Tin

    You'd be amazed that you asked the owner the same question originally in his thread

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    Re Pauls Q in thread 5. I did so a small paper on the scope cans but it was only after doing a bit of research after the equipment manager gave me the list of post war suppliers of the tins. Pressed Sheet Metal Work (PSMW) at Swindon was one. They were big pressed sheet fabricators to the UKicon Post Office based in Swindon, Bird and Tole from near Aylesbury sub contracted to someone else and another outfit somewhere else...........

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    Canadianicon REL Mk1 1943



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    what is the tool in the bottom?

    is that an original canadian mount? it certainly looks different to the original english ones and the american repro's.

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    I believe that the tool is part of the set for adjusting the MK1 scope. The tool has claws to grip the turret while the inner (raised part in the picture) is slotted to hold the lead screw in place. As hopefully you can see from the picture the tin has an internal bracket and clip to hold the tool.

    Yes the mount is an original Canadianicon one - you can just see a C with inner broad arrow near the front screw - and the scope is an REL MK1.

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    That horrendous tool came with a key that you ain't got. In fact, that unwieldly simplified tool was even more complicated than the complicated and unwieldly tool it was meant to replace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    That horrendous tool came with a key that you ain't got. In fact, that unwieldly simplified tool was even more complicated than the complicated and unwieldly tool it was meant to replace!
    It was the best attempt made to overcome the inherent defect in the scope design of a turning leadscrew supposedly being locking in place without the slightest movement(!) by the compression of the locking ring turning down against it.

    If anyone doesn't know, that "U" shaped bit on the "pliers" was slotted on the end to hold the lead screw stationary while the locking ring was loosened or tightened with the missing stud wrench that was kept in the spring clip on the case lid. Of course there was no tool that could be designed to then hold the lead screw perfectly still while the drum was rotated to the correct range or deflection marking.

    Little idiocies like that were why many soldiers in WWII habitually believed Jerry had better equipment.

    Though in fact, the No32 had some advantages the Germanicon scopes did not: adjustment detents you could feel and hear as well as see, and markings you could read while in a firing position, almost.

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    There was a FAR better method that didn't need any tools Rob. But the tools were part of the kit and like Armourers tools, you were taught how to use them while in training until you got into the real world. And then you used/made/copied/adapted the tools that your elders had used/made/copied/adapted/been using successfully for years.

    Regarding the clicks part of the range drum. On the No4 and L42 sniper courses, the snipers learned by heart the number of clicks between ranges PLUS the number of clicks on their particular telescope between the end stop and the 0 mark. So that even in a dark hide against a known or estimated target range, they could set the sights. And guess what.......... During the course they'd be set JUST such a task and during the stalk, when you couldn't read the scale, the actual target range would change. When they'd done all their click adjustments by feel the DS would look at the scale reading. This way the DS would know if they'd learned and memorised what they'd learned!

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