Slightly lost member returns with carbine powder question?? Vihtavuori N110

[painter777]

Hello All,
Feel like I've been everywhere but here for nearly a year.
Life has a way of getting in the way.
Sometimes in a good way. I'm now a first time Grand Pa thanks to the efforts of my now out of the navy daughter!! A baby boy..........
I've retired now, but have spent the last 1-1/2 year helping out our kids and a few of there friends by remodeling their new homes.
The wife also got me to re-do our place from top to bottom.
Other than putting in some fancy stove she's bought, I should be about finished

Feels great to be back on!!

I'm down to less than 4lbs of WRA 296 and rarely see it available anymore.
Much like WRA 231, just can't find them in stock.
I've come to really like a few of the Vihtavuori powders for pistols and 223/556 loads.
So far I've only had problems remembering how to spell the name.

Question:
Has anyone tried their N110 for 110 grain carbine loads?
Any help greatly appreciated.

A link to there load data:

.30 Carbine - Rifle reloading - Reloading Data - Vihtavuori

TIA,
Charlie-Painter777

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[browningautorifle]

Welcome back Charlie, I never used N110 though.

[USGI]

Charlie, welcome back to the forum! Never used N110 either, but Lee 2nd Edition shows starting loads for 110g jacketed as 11.9g and never exceed as 13.3g (compressed). Velocity for the starting load is listed as 1719 fps and "never exceed" load at 1909 fps. Same bullet for H110 shows starting at 14.0g (2006 fps) and never exceed at 15.0g (2106 fps). Lee's loads were usually taken directly from manufacturer's tables at the time of printing, which was 2010. However, the date on this specific table was 2-26-03. Minimum OAL for H110 load was listed as 1.680 and for N110 was 1.673. - Bob

[Bill Hollinger]

Welcome back Charlie! You have been greatly missed.

[Mizzouboy]

IMR4227 has worked well for me. Also works with slightly reduced charges for my Ruger Blackhawk in .30 carbine. Lee has data. Not as finicky as W296 it seems.
BTW Welcome back! I've been away a while, too.

[DaveHH]

IMR 4227 was the original powder for the carbine cartridge if I recall. I've used 4227, 4198, 2400, H110, alliant 9, WC820 and w296 and to be honest there was none better or worse. I would avoid fast pistol powders like Bullseye, and Red Dot which probably would work as well but would be hard on the weapon.
I've been told that reduced charges of H110 and W296 are dangerous which makes them a last choice for me. I just bought some 4227 and will probably use that for my next batch. IMR powders burn clean. It is such an inaccurate cartridge (because of the bullet) that I'm not chasing a perfect load. You can bet the farm that all the GI rounds are loaded with some ball powder. The round is very sensitive to OAL and case length. If the rounds are too long they hang up inside the magazines. Bell the case mouth as little as possible.

[imarangemaster]

I use 11 grains of Alliant 2400 for my lead bullet loads, using a 115 grain moly coated Bear Creek Bullet. Great load, and cycles the action. A bit slower, though, so I use the 200 setting instead of the 100/150 setting. Usually dead nuts on. As accurate as the full power 15 grains of WW296 at 100 yards.

[Bruce McAskill]

Hi Charlie, Glad your back and able to sit up and take in nourishment. H-110 is the same as your 296. You may be able to find it on line. Congratulations Grand Pa. Hey the nice thing about grand kids is when they are with you, you get to spoil them, feed them lots of sugar and then send them back to their parents.

DaveHH, IMR 4227 and 2400 were two of the early powders used in carbine ammo. Ball powder didn't come along till later on. Developed by Western Powder Company along with Winchester.

[DICKX]

Good to have you back. You were missed very much.
Dick

[imarangemaster]

Oh, yeah! Congrats on being a grandpa! I am and its one of my favorite things to be!