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The M1917 wasn't the only rifle which was sent here in WW2, for anyone interested the link below takes you to an article regarding M1903 rifles......
Red Star Remington Model 1903's
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Originally Posted by
Flying10uk
Did the
British only use the standard open sights on their P14 rifles in the sniper role in WW1, please?
I'm not an expert on this (my only P-14 is standard issue) but I did find some pics of the P14 Sniper.
Here's what one authority said: "Only Winchester P14s were converted because they were considered the most accurate. Apparently only a couple thousand Winchester P14s were converted to snipers using the Periscopic Prism M1918 or Aldis Telescopic sights. A relative handful (79) of them were converted later for the Irish Free State. Since the scope mount covered the receiver ring the rifles were renumbered on the righthand rear sight ear. Telescopes were numbered to the rifles. In 1926, following British standards, these were officially redesignated Rifle No. 3 Mk. 1* (T). The term "P14" stuck however as it is stamped on the buttstock of most examples. The No. 3 Mk 1 * (T) was standard up until the No. 4 (T) sniper came on line. The M1918 scope was good in its day but by the time WW2 rolled around it was old, obsolete, not moisture proof and delicate. 2001 P14 rifles were converted by PP Co and 79 by BSA. The 421 Aldis scoped rifles were introduced in 1940, having been converted by Alexander Martin of Glasgow."
I'm sure others have more to contribute or correct on this.
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A must for all P14s.......adapter for mounting the LE grenade discharger cup on to a P14. I have four of these, recovered from a British army dump site here in the UK.
Attachment 67697
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The 577-450 cartridge in the picture is of the earlier type made before they had the ability to make them in a solid brass case. The case is formed from thin brass that was folded to the desired shape. It was crimped on to an iron/steel base that holds the primer. The bullet was wrapped with a paper patch before being loaded.
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As the war went on, the documents in the Public Records Office show a concerted effort to locate all P-14s in the Home Guard (and any other .303s) and exchange them for M1917s, and also Sten guns. Some static Army units also had .303s withdrawn and .30 rifles issued instead.
When J.M. Keynes went to Washington in 1945 to supervise the wind-up of the British Lend-Lease accounts he tried to get a refund of the cash-and-carry payments involved in the general settlement, and they wouldn't have it. There was considerable hostility in Washington to giving Britain any kind of financial assistance at the end of the war, partly because the administration was still seeing Britain through the prism of a rival for its postwar trade rather than an ally against communism.
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But it all worked out in the end...................... Or did it?
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