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    Nearly a No4T

    Seems to have started life with so much promise and ended up as a skeleton rifle.

    Note it has the TR on butt socket, the S on action and the Holland and Holland inspectors
    mark on the bolt way.

    I have looked carefully and there are no screw holes for the pads.
    Bit of a mystery.
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    Very nice! Odd find to be sure. Can't be many of these floating about.

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    That is very cool! Now all you need is a skeletonized No 32 scope to mount on it and you're set! Wonder what path it took to end up as a trainer!

    I have an SMLE skeleton that still has a butt disk to the Canadianicon Machine Gun Corps. Never know what you will find.

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    These ex T rifles weren't that uncommon in service, either as Skeletonised or DP rifles. They usually had the threaded holes in the side. Usually downgraded as T's and converted as the needs arose to save wastage

    The strange thing about that rifle is that the usual BSA serial number has been obliterated from the butt socket but the TR has remained. The TR was usually much lower down too. The machining looks a bit, er......, 'wanting' too for the usual standards we have cone to expect from List & Son. Does it have the usual SKN type serial number?

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    Peter your right the TR does look a little high up on the butt socket and strange the number is missing. It does not have a SKN serial number.
    I actually got this from ROF Nottingham when BAe closed it down. It did have a tag attached
    with more information. I remember putting the tag safely away but can't find it at the moment. If I recall correctly the rifle was described as a TP rifle and then amended as TR.
    If I do find the tag I will post a picture.

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    Interesting piece. Does it have the D7E inspector's mark on the other side of the butt socket? My unconverted 1944 M47C action also has the "S" stamp, and both inspector's marks. Odd, but there it is.
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