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    LRRP with Silenced Sten????

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    Is it legitimate picture of a LRRP member with a silenced Sten?
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    The silencer looks too long to be part of a real Mk2S. The way to tell is by scaling it against something relevant.

    And who are the LRRP?

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    I innocc'd a silenced sten a while back.... I'll see if I have a pic when I get home. I cannot recall the weapons correct designation, but I remember the silencer had a leather case laced onto it.

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    The thermal cover was usually standard webbing. There were two sorts. One plain where you wrapped the silencer casing with Vickers asbestos gland packing string or the other sort with an asbestos weave attached to it. Obviously well before the days of cancer scares. Mind you, when I was in Oz and with the Battalions in Malaya we were shirtless and hatless and in shorts. I don't think cancer scares had been invented then. If they had, no-one told us!

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    If we were to skip the absence of the fabric sleeve and look at the basic weapon behind the suppressor body, I see a crude triangle front sight post and what appears to be the magazine well profile of a Sten of some variation. I was thinking it could have been a Carl Gustav suppressed SMG held on it's side, which I have seen referenced as used by SF groups during the Vietnam era, but after a quick reference the mag housing is all wrong.

    As Peter says, the suppressor does look a bit long but it could just be a effect of the camera perspective.

    I think it could be, but that said I have only handled 2 or 3 Sten guns (none of them suppressed) in person and am by no means no means an expert, just applying the principles of AFV recognition to firearms.

    Late edit, in the blow up I think I see a cocking handle that appear to be locked into a safety notch

    Later edit: I measured the photo using Photoshop CS6 tools and have taken the following measurements:
    From the magazine to the apparent bottom of magazine well measures 1.440"
    From the magazine to the side of the gun body measures 1.703"

    The suppressor from the 3 o'clock of the muzzle to the apparent breech at the same location measures 1.548"

    I am not sure if those measurement are of any help in scaling?

    Does anyone have a Sten kicking around to give some real life numbers to compare those ratios against?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    And who are the LRRP?
    Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol

    I knew there were suppressed Carl Gustav SMGs in Vietnam. I had the opportunity to shoot one here many years ago. The gun in the picture is definitely a Sten.

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    It looks like there is an “L” shaped object attached to the front sight band on the left side. Maybe an adjustment handle? That would be very handy. The baffle stacks in my Sten suppressors are not indexed, so the zero shifts slightly after each cleaning and front sight has to be adjusted. The location of it is also good, just in front of the magazine housing where it’s less likely to get snagged on something.
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    Sten for sure. I was thinking S&W 76 for a minute too...but these guys used whatever clandestine piece they could procure. The can could have been a local weapon's tech knockoff...not hard to make, right Peter?
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    The little projection looks like it is the barrel nut catch. A locally made sound moderator wouldn't be too hard to make but the barrel is very short, the tube is long so bore to exit hole alignment is and was always a consideration to us with ours. In fact, with ours, you could swing the gun fast and shoot out the muzzle cup!

    The ones we had out there were always a yellow and khaki colour, same as the Owen colour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    bore to exit hole alignment is and was always a consideration to us with ours. In fact, with ours, you could swing the gun fast and shoot out the muzzle cup!
    That's a fact. I heard about the swing and shooting the end out but couldn't believe it would be true.
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    Looking at the pic posted by sentry duty, I remember now the one here had the canvas cover with asbestos inside as Peter had said. It was the same as the one in the pic. Still looking for the pics I took... The weapon is in the Infantry Museum at the School of Infantry, Singleton, Aust.

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