Help needed identifying Martini Henry barrel bands

[AndyCT]

Hi guys

I've got 3 barrel bands which, I suspect, went on Martini Henry rifles. The 2 smaller bands measure 35mm top to bottom. Does anyone recognise them and know on which rifles they went?

Any help be much appreciated.

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[Flying10uk]

The split band could be Martini but not sure which Mk without trying them on a rifle. The other 2 I would have expected to have a hole in each side if they were Martini unless they are N.O.S. and it was intended to drill out after fitting to the woodwork. Without the hole in the other side you would never get the pin out once fitted to the woodwork???

[Aragorn243]

The big one looks like a Martini but I don't think the other two are.

[AndyCT]

Thanks very much guys. I appreciate your input. Someone suggested the 2 smaller bands went on a Mauser–Vergueiro.

I have a Martini Henry 1874 rifle (deactivated) and the larger band in the photo is slightly smaller than the band on that rifle.

[Patrick Chadwick]

Stylistically, I reckon they could all have fitted on one or another of the P1853 or P1858 muzzle-loading rifles. Or the Sniders. If you have it, take a look at SAIS No. 20 ".577 Pattern Rifle Musket & Snider-Enfield".

I have the "family" of P1851, P1858, P1861, Snider 3, Martini-Henry IV and a genuine Kabul arsenal P1853 copy (not Khyber Pass!). If I were to remove all the bands and mix them up on the table that would be my weekend gone to sort them all out again.

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Without the hole in the other side you would never get the pin out once fitted to the woodwork???

That style is for use with band springs, not a through pin. Bands held by band springs either have a single locating hole for the lug on the spring or are held against the step in the woodwork by a step on the spring. Some plain bands were also held against the step in the wood by a pin through the wood in front of the band, not through the band.

[green]

The ones with the holes thru them look like a cadet Martini band