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    Fifty minutes watching this will be well spent - the truth about the Titanic sinking



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    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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    has often been touted the Olympic went down good video enjoyed it

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    The common ones were the rivets were of inferior manufacturing standard and became brittle in the cold waters thus when the ship hit the iceberg they shattered causing the damage far greater than expected than had they been of better quality, water tight bulkheads not going up the full height of the hull.
    I was thinking about the starboard side of the Olympic when the collision happened with the HMS Hawk and all that damage that was more severe than it first seemed the consequent major repairs and what affect that had, could it have been another nail in the ships coffin that was a good video I must say I have packed away somewhere a small paper back of a similar vein it is a great read cannot remember where I stored it nor its title but snippets of it.

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    Been to the traveling Titanic exhibit twice. I can't describe being able to touch a piece of that ship. A piece of hull is under glass with just enough room to stick a finger in to touch the steel. At least one of the davits was raised, that and all the personal artifacts, some identified to individuals with a short description of that persons life,,sad.
    The ticket to enter the exhibit is a "Titanic boarding pass" with the real name of a passenger. At the end of the walk through there's a billboard with the names of those who lived or died. The two passengers I've been both died. I'd have better luck playing the slots I should think.

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    I think what has changed is the fact that the locating of the wreck site, spread over a wide area a number of years ago, still doesn't explain why the propeller was on the wrong ship or am I alone in that? That surely confirms the conspiracy if the Harland & Wolffe fitters and workers didn't notice!!
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    It does make for an interesting bit of maritime lore, and potentially a business scandal of substantial proportions, however the name on the side of the ship still doesn't diminish the scope of the disaster after the fact. If the ship was intentionally steamed into an iceberg the only thing that really changes is our modern perception of the cause of the disaster, everything after the ship struck ice remains unchanged.

    If a company did indeed intentionally switch and scuttle a broken ship to claim the insurance money, then the conscious must have been quite heavy on the decision makers that crafted and executed the plan. Personally I would wonder why engineer an iceberg strike when a boiler explosion would have been much more easy to control and doubly effective, it could have been done just close enough to safety to endanger far fewer people. Even using a coal torpedo could have placed blame of sabotage on the coal labor strikes or some foreign entity.

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    The problem I have with the prop theory is this. If Olympic threw her prop in the collision with the wreck and Titanic's had to be used to replace it. Then Titanic's would have to be recast and would still retain the 401 ship number. Olympic's was on the sea floor.

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    The meeting with the ships Captain and the subsequent hold the Co had over him would place a person whom probably loved the sea in a perilous position in losing his ship after he damaged so many of them, the Hawk collision was very much like another the Titanic (Olympic?) suffered when she left port for the journey when she made another ship snap her mooring lines on the dock and the stern started to drift out, the day was saved by a Tug boat had a collision occurred then the story may have had a different ending. The coal fires are just a fact of life we at a coal fired power station had constant bunker fires as coal spontaneously combusts, stock piles have to be meticulously maintained smooth sided where no eddies can be created by the wind where a fire will start biggest one in a coal fire is the H2S gas (Hydrogen Sulphide) couple of sniffs of that desensitizes your sense of smell and bingo you may end up dying if you stay in the area, plus the CO2 and CO will knock you over as well.

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    There seems to be so much FACT in the programme, it beggars believe as we once again analyse the incident all these years later.
    I don't think the top people would have gone on the trip if they thought for one minute they were about to die, becuase it was the saving of the White Star line that was everything.
    I think the California and the jumpers stationery in the Atlantic was never properly explained.
    Why would you get your head down, with most of the crew including more importantly your radio man in mid Atlantic??
    Interesting point, but as you say another conspiracy theory to swallow!!
    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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