Swedish Model 1851 Kammerlader

[krinko]

I posted this at one other forum some time ago---don't know if anyone here has seen it, so, off to the photos...

In the vise with the chamber open---



Open close up. Notice the nipple on the bottom; this is an underhammer rig.---



Closed close up. The crack drawing out behind the axis is the reason I have not fired this one. There is another on the other side, too. The Birch stock has shrunk a bit since 1854 when the musket was made.



The much better known Norwegian Kammerladern have very obvious maker's marks on the bottom of the barrel. Many are of Belgian manufacture and show a nice, easy "Liege"---but not the Swede, oh no, that would be too obvious.



The underhammer lock, dismounted.



Like the Norwegian type, there is no half cock; don't ask me why. There were various hammer block devices used instead and the Swede has three brass pins on the bottom for mounting whatever they used in the Swedish Navy.

I would like to fire this one. I have the proper mould, I have the approximate charge weight but I have neither a cap to fit the nipple, nor the desire to disintegrate the stock. So we're stuck.

-----krinko

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[krinko]

I should mention, this is one of a remarkable group of firearms retrieved from Norway by a U.S. Air Force officer around 1961. Others in the group were the Webley I posted here this week, pinfire revolvers, Norwegian Nagant revolvers, a Yugoslavian M 1924 Norwegian sporter conversion, a Beretta M 34---many marked with the Norwegian Army sold out of service lion-with-battleaxe.
Unbelievable, almost.
-----krinko

[BMF]

Nice Kammerlader. I saw it before on the Gunboards forum...The brass buttons is for attaching a small piece of leather. It can stay in two positions. Across the hammer as a safety, or out of the way.

I made a thread about the development of the norwegian Kammerladers on Gunboards, but there wasn't much interest. I find these old pieces quite fascinating.
The birth of the Kammerlader.

[krinko]

"Gregersen 24 lødig kammerlader 1839."

Someone at svartkrutt mentioned that the 1851 Swede had an earlier origin---looks like the Gregerson is it.
Thanks for the link and photos.
-----krinko

[rice 123]

was the first picture taken at sols in Omaha?

[krinko]

"was the first picture taken at sols in Omaha?"
Absolutely.
-----krinko

[rice 123]

I figured sols I ended up with the 34 beretta

[krinko]

The original buyer for the two Lefaucheau revolvers and the two Norwegian Nagant revolvers had to back out, so I got those last weekend as well.
I am going to photograph the one Lefauxcheau and post it at svartkrutt, because it's most of an M64/98. I hope the Norwegian guys don't get bent out of shape by the fact that this is in the US.
I'll put the photos up in the military revolver forum here, too. The M64/98 Lefauxcheau is cut for an added top strap. Ought to be some interest.
-----krinko

[Helberg]

Well us norwegian guys are just glad that these fine firearms are being taken good care of. Regardless of whether they are in Norway or the US.
For what would the Norwegian antique gun marked be without American firearms.

Looking forward to more pics of these.

[gew8805]

A beautiful example krinko, thanks for showing us. I am sure you are aware of this site, but in case someone isn't:

Norwegian military small-arms blades