AESP's for Rifle .22in No.8 Mk.1

[Badger]

With thanks to member LondonEnfield, we've added a new set if manuals to the Manuals/Précis Section - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here)

AESP's for Rifle .22in No.8 Mk.1 (click here) .....

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Doug

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[LondonEnfield]

The Freedom of Information Act is a wonderful thing!

[Peter Laidler]

The downside to this EMER info - if I might be so bold again - is that it comes available to the average Joe who doesn't have the experience on the bench or training to back it up with in-depth knowledge, the where withall or even the specialist tools and gauges to perform anything past the most basic. Just the technical description of the action of the trigger mechanism still baffles me for the first 10 minutes or so! I know I'm not the brightest light on the tree but the advanced courses help when it comes to the in-depth stuff. Reading the book is no substitute for hands on. It's like the shooters you see on the ranges showing off with their whole display of gauges and whatevers.......... My son is a snow-boarder who calls the wealthy newbies 'all the gear - no idea'

[CINDERS]

When I started shooting my Uncle taught me with a Mod 12 .22 Lithgow with a 10 shot mag but with only 1 bullet at 1 wrascally wrabbit....1 shot 1 bunny thats it if you wish to eat, I enter full bore in 1978 with a 2nd hand flogged out barreled Omark I ended up putting a B44 barrel on it I think and a good ol simplex 3 die head press. Now in 2016 I am one of those dudes who has all the bells and whistle thingies and good reloading gear who has fun and is not to phased if I crap out and drop a good swag of points. My latest acquisition is a Farley Magnum rest as my Caldwell was not stable enough in my mind.

I have seen so many new shooters get 0000's into the sport and lose confidence because despite all the gear it ain't happening and if you are not confident in 2 things 1. yourself 2. your gear well your doomed to constant failure with the occasional good score......
Here is one ~ We were at 600m this day and a chap who likes to look like Mr tactical (All black gear and attire) rocks in with a new sporter plastic stocked Tikka 308 whippy barrel with a cheap scope and Bi-pod gets to the mound and opens up miss miss miss miss miss can I have a spotter please, a volunteer gets beside Mr tactical your short 5 minutes up Elev there we are on the paper. (understand this has been continuous firing from this weapon Mr Whippy barrel, he would pop a round in and let it cook as well for a while before firing and never really let the barrel breathe with the bolt open between shots)
So after 40 sighting shots he gives up as it wont hold a group smaller that a 3.5 foot circle, now I had been a spectator from a distance and walked 10 feet behind that shooter and all I could smell was hot metal yep really well cooked, he was trying to shoot .5 ~ 1 MOA with a hunting rifle with stock ammo against our purpose built rifles with hand loaded ammo with VLD projies! But I will give him one thing he is still trying went to a 1000yds once and gave it up after 5 misses wonder why we encouraged him to keep it to the shorts 300m or shoot field class 100m to 300m and let the barrel cool a bit so he gains some semblence of faith in himself and his kit.

[LondonEnfield]

I was looking through the illustrated parts list again (the 711) and noticed that as well as the 8 lengths of bolt head, it also seems to list 8 different complete breech bolt assemblies - drawings are numbered CR53A up to CR60A.

I didn't think the No.8 bolts differed from each other at all other than the bolt heads. What was the difference?

[Peter Laidler]

Ah........, that's the point! There AREN'T 8 different bolts. There are 8 different BOLT HEADS but due to army logic - or Ordnance Corps LACK of logic, if a bolt assembly comes in with, say, a No3 bolt head, it is catalogued differently to a bolt assembly fitted with a No6 bolt head! Additionally and VERY importantly, the AESP doesn't mention that ALL of the parts specific to the No8 rifle are NLA. That's Ordnance speak for No Longer Available. According to the amended paper parts list related to the old EMER, butt plates and magazine insert plates have been NLA for years, as have the fore-end sling bands and I never ever saw new cartridge platform pins...., well, certainly since the 70's! Trigger mech. parts...... forget it....., but springs seemed to be readily available!

The same applies to the 3 'variations' of rifles, each given a different Ordnance part number. Short butt, Standard butt and Long butt. But guess what......... You only ever got the medium butt! If you need a long butt for a lanky 6'4" cadet, you indented for it. You wouldn't get it but you could try. Workshops would extend one for you if you asked nicely on the G-1045A

Hope that answers the question.