FTR'd trials T's

[chosenman]

Hi all, not sure if anyone has spotted them but there are a couple of intetesting FTR'd trials T's for sale on the Devizes gunsmith website.

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[CINDERS]

As I said earlier pretty soon a flogged out T will be worth 10,000 BP as long as people are willing to pay those sorts of prices 10,000 for one and 8,500 BP for the other, hang on a mo I will just duck out and grab some 100 dollar bills off the money tree out the back.

[desperatedan]

Hi all, not sure if anyone has spotted them but there are a couple of intetesting FTR'd trials T's for sale on the Devizes gunsmith website.

Thanks for the heads up. I do begin to wonder though if the curse of "interesting" values has founds its way deep into our relatively small corner of the collecting universe as others search for the next "undiscovered" or rare asset. It's hit cars, bikes, watches, etc and has been rapidly creeping up on firearms to the extent that you can see most of these types now being purchased and stuck in a safe, never to see the light of day again, rather than being used and enjoyed for fear of diminishing their "value".

I wear my 35 year old swiss watch every day, use my air cooled rear engined german car in all weathers and shoot my british and canadian sniper rifles at every range trip. With a few dings and marks I don't fear for their value and all totally reliable, no doubt because they're used and maintained as intended. That's the key to the satisfaction of owning them for me, regardless of what they might fetch as a collectors item.

[Roger Payne]

Some of Richard's stock is sold on a commission basis for the individual owners. They sometimes make it clear that they want a high price for their rifle from the outset. He then has to add on his commission, & of course a little for HM government's coffers.......

[henry r]

desperatedan do tell us more about your aircooled german masterpiece. what badge does it run under?

I ask as I have a couple of the peoples car from the 6V era.

[Promo]

I see nothing wrong with these prices. Talking on my collection I always say that basically everything is for sale - it's just a matter of the price . But no worries, so far my collection still keeps growing

[Surpmil]

And for present and future reference:

A1038: Original(? butt is Beech therefore a replacement?) scope number appears to be 6/3556/8 overstruck with cancellation mark. Second number on wrist is 17211

.303 Lee Enfield No4Mk1T Trials Rifle, Circa 1941 (built on a 1933 B-Pattern Trials No4). Originally an early B-Pattern trials No4Mk1 built in 1933, this rifle was one of the trials rifles converted at Enfield in 1941 and trialled as a No4T, then being put into active service before being FTR’d at the end of WW2. It still has its original trials (1933) 4-click inspectors marked rearsight with the action body not having been modified to take the production ladder sights spring and plunger, trials (1933) magazine cut-off and trials (1941) ‘scope pads (inspectors mark on the front). FTR’d at the end of WW2 and with a ’45 dated barrel fitted at that time, the bore remains in ‘as new’ condition and gauges at .302” dead. The rifle butt is a very early production No4 beech butt (the first few production rifles were beech) and is also inspectors marked under the wrist, the forend and hand guards are early Savage production, the forend being inspectors marked next to the matching rifle number indicating that this is the forend that it was re-stocked with for the 4T trials. The remaining small parts are typical early production English made components. 1944 dated No32Mk3 telescope in fantastic optical and mechanical condition with nearly all original finish remaining fitted in a Rose Bros. bracket numbered to the rifle, the telescope number is marked to the wrist of the stock in the usual way along with the barred out number of an early Mk1 telescope, indicating this to be the butt fitted at the time of the 4T trials. The telescope is contained within a No8Mk2 canvas ‘scope case bearing the rifle number and telescope number, which is very nice to have. Along with the rifle is a selection of desirable accessories to the CES as follows: correct leather sling, correct cleaning kit, nice Scout Regiment spotting ‘scope, case & strap, sniper face veil, action cover, 1940 dated Mk3 compass, cased (1939 dated) REL binoculars (1944 dated), snipers/observers map cover and the whole contained within a Canadian marked No15Mk1 transit chest (currently without securing catches, however I will replace these if I can locate a set). All in all a very interesting rifle with a wonderful history of service both in trials and war and in lovely and very usable condition. £10,500.00
Stock No 1355

A2306 Butt wrist sanded down or butt replaced? Number showing23469 might be a UK fitting.

.303 Lee Enfield No4Mk1T Trials Rifle, Circa 1941 (built on a 1931 B-Pattern Trials No4). Originally an early B-Pattern trials No4Mk1 built in 1931, this rifle was one of the trials rifles converted at Enfield in 1941 and trialled as a No4T, then being put into active service before being FTR’d at the end of WW2. It still has its original trials (1931) 4-click inspectors marked rearsight with the action body not having been modified to take the production ladder sights spring and plunger and trials (1941) ‘scope pads (inspectors mark on the front). The FTR would appear to have been carried out at Long Branch in Canada as the majority of its small components and woodwork are marked with the Long Branch manufacturers code. The barrel is ’45 dated and is also of Long Branch manufacture (5-groove) with a good bore gauging at .30325”. Matching numbers (following FTR) to the action, bolt body, forend and Rose Bros. telescope bracket, telescope number matching the number on the wrist of the rifle butt. 1945 dated No32Mk3 telescope in lovely optical and mechanical condition contained in an early No8Mk1 tin with original strap and label for the Mk3 telescope. Contained within a Canadian marked converted Bren chest along with a good Scout Regiment spotting scope, case and strap, canvas rifle cover, sniper face veil, set of REL binoculars (loose) and correct leather sling. All in all a very interesting rifle with a wonderful history of service both in trials and war. £8,500.00
Stock No 1354