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    Doc,

    do you have source for this information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocAV View Post
    SAU CIE stands for Saupers Companie
    I can back up part of this as Companie is Company in Frenchicon. That part was clear without typing anything into Google. The rest makes sense. More than the preceeding...
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    I spent some time looking out for a likely P14 here in Mauserland - and again and again these things turned up. After a couple of years, I gave up - whether Frenchicon or Dutch, every one I saw was worn out, and would have been a waste of time as a shooter.

    6721 Dutch sappers in the East indies? That would seem to be far too many - I tend to the French theory.

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    "Saupers Companie" isn't correct Dutch, that should say "Sapeurs Compagnie". I've heard and read every possible explanation. Dutch KNIL, Belgian Colonial, Danishicon, Frenchicon Foreign Legion...

    I'm not saying that my French SAU theory is correct, it's just a theory as I have clearly stated. But the French Sections Adminstratives Urbaines in Algeria is the only (para)military unit that uses the SAU abreviation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawrence_n View Post
    Greetings all. I've recently come into posssession of pretty run-of-the-mill ERA P.14. The volley sight disc is present on the fore stock, but the pointer and the folding peep are long gone. Where I am at a loss is regarding the brass plate spanning the brass stock disc. As you can see from the pic, it's clearly marked with some sort of designation and what I believe to be a rack number. My research has not turned up any definitive information, so I'm turning to the experts for this one. If anyone knows positively what the brass plate denotes, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks in advance.
    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSCN1043-1.jpg
    Thanks to all of you for your input, but when I sort this all out I seem to get a lot of "probables". Now, to add to the mix, a pretty knowledgeable guy at a local gun show states pretty definitively that it's Quebec Home Guard. So, round and round she goes again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawrence_n View Post
    Quebec Home Guard.
    We did use them for home guard after all. That's what they were relegated to for WW2.
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    The P14 was little used in Canadaicon , a recent publication gives the number as 85 compared to c100,000 M17s. These P14s with ID strip appeared on the surplus market at the same time as Indonesian SMLEs, East indies pattern Dutch Mannlichers and M1941 Johnsons. I believe they are Dutch East Indies/ Indonesian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green View Post
    The P14 was little used in Canadaicon
    As a matter of fact my father in law didn't use a P14 but an M1917...I guess you're right. There were some issued to PCMR though, and M1917sn Ross, Winchesters, Savages... I'd still think there would have been some around for other uses though.
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    Well, at least one P.14 was Canadianicon used with the W&S scope during WWII


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