Mauser K98 byf 45, Need Help with Analysis/Valuation

[GolfBravoUSMC]

Last spring I posted a thread on the CMP Forum regarding an Early Garand bring back. Click Here

I've been in contact with the elderly son of the GI who brought back the Garand. It turns out his father brought back several rifles. I knew he had a Carbine and offered to buy it. It turned out it is a 99.4% pure Winchester, (a story for a different thread).

When I went to pick up the Carbine the wife pulled me aside asked if I would take two other guns along with the Carbine. She explained the husband was not running on all eight cylinders and wanted to get them out of the house. One is a Danish M-1867 Rolling Block, origin unknown, the other is the K98 Mauser byf 45 bring back WWII souvenir.

Would appreciate any analysis, dating and/or valuation concerning the Mauser. I realize it was manufactured at Orbendorf in 1945, but how late in the war? It shows a lot of corners were cut in the manufacturing at this time. It came with a narrow web sling that looks like a wartime field improvisation. The bore has strong lands and grooves with frosting/patina(?) but no visible pits.

Thanks in advance

Semper Fi

P.S. The helmet pictured is 100% original and was brought back by my dad.


Additional pictures here:
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[Sarge]

By ser nr your 98 was made in Jan 45, just before Oberndorff changed their code to svw.
The sling is correkt for your rifle. It is an odd ball and fairly rare. Are there any markings on it - would be an ink stamp?
Sarge

[browningautorifle]

The bayonet lug/front cap are missing too...wonder how/why that happened. The pin has to be driven out so it wasn't an accident. I doubt it's lying about?

[Eaglelord17]

The bayonet lug/front cap are missing too...wonder how/why that happened. The pin has to be driven out so it wasn't an accident. I doubt it's lying about?

I am by no means a Mauser expert but I thought by the late war period they started to do away with those features on the rifles to speed up production.

[GolfBravoUSMC]

From what I've learned so far you are correct. Germany was sinking fast and corners were cut.

[gtodan]

The bayonet lug/front cap are missing too...wonder how/why that happened. The pin has to be driven out so it wasn't an accident. I doubt it's lying about?

Everything secured by screws.

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Looks like a sling for a gas mask can.

By ser nr your 98 was made in Jan 45, just before Oberndorff changed their code to svw.
The sling is correkt for your rifle. It is an odd ball and fairly rare. Are there any markings on it - would be an ink stamp?
Sarge

[browningautorifle]

started to do away with those features

Everything secured by screws

I don't see any sign of a front end fitted on the close up pics it's so tough looking, later yes they were a tragedy of a monsterpiece.

As for the front band and front cap gtodan, I guess it may be a screw hole but still I can't even see the hole for that in the wood.

[GolfBravoUSMC]

I don't see any sign of a front end fitted on the close up pics it's so tough looking, later yes they were a tragedy of a monsterpiece.

As for the front band and front cap gtodan, I guess it may be a screw hole but still I can't even see the hole for that in the wood.

The hole is there but the band is out of position in the picture. Can't see any screw striations in any of the three holes on the side and front of the stock.

[GolfBravoUSMC]

By ser nr your 98 was made in Jan 45, just before Oberndorff changed their code to svw.
The sling is correkt for your rifle. It is an odd ball and fairly rare. Are there any markings on it - would be an ink stamp?
Sarge

I checked it thoroughly and could find no marks. Its a little grubby so if it was light it could have been covered by the soil and oil of time.

Semper Fi

Greg

[jmoore]

The bayonet lug/front cap are missing too...wonder how/why that happened. The pin has to be driven out so it wasn't an accident. I doubt it's lying about?

Probably like this one:



Never had it!