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    Bonus find at the range today.

    Went to the local range today with my son and walked by the brass disposal can and BINGO deep in .556 brass. Just over 1200 once fired IVI and great for reloading. Guess the military were at the range recently!

    My son has a SP1 and just bought a Colt Commando so will use the brass for only those two guns. The DPMS and Norc. will suffer with Federal and Norc brass reloads.

    It was a great day!
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    Good deal. I originally procured a sandbag of brass to reload for my AR and then sold the whole affair...then had to build it all up again. IVI is a good start.
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    Good deal. I originally procured a sandbag of brass to reload for my AR and then sold the whole affair...then had to build it all up again. IVI is a good start.
    Hard to find IVI without paying too much for it so yes a good start. Have thousands of Federal and Norc brass and am now throwing away the Norc after 3 reloads. I have no idea what they were using for guns as none have the usual dent in the case but a strange mark on the base rim?? Have never seen that before, usually the small dent when using in a AR.
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    Norc brass is of questionable specs so I never use it at all. The rims aren't all the same and if you get the ammo the loads are variable too. The distorted rims would be from the high opening velocity and the rim being yanked by the extractor, maybe the brass is a bit soft. Anyway, no matter it goes to salvage. I'll keep only commercial and good standard brass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enfield303t View Post
    Went to the local range today with my son and walked by the brass disposal can and BINGO deep in .556 brass. Just over 1200 once fired IVI and great for reloading.
    .556 would imply an INCH measurement. Do you mean 5.56mm?

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    Being the headstamp is IVI it is certainly 5.56mm (x45 NATO) he means, there are not a lot of calibres with IVI on the head in production any longer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by enfield303t View Post
    Went to the local range today with my son and walked by the brass disposal can and BINGO deep in .556 brass. Just over 1200 once fired IVI and great for reloading. Guess the military were at the range recently!

    My son has a SP1 and just bought a Colt Commando so will use the brass for only those two guns. The DPMS and Norc. will suffer with Federal and Norc brass reloads.

    It was a great day!
    More likely that you followed the local RCMP onto the range...they are (slowly?) being issued C8 carbines and 77gr IVI 5.56mm (Mk 262 Mod 1 equivalent) ammunition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Enfield View Post
    More likely that you followed the local RCMP onto the range.
    That makes more sense than anything else. The military doesn't allow the troops to shoot on Civ ranges. On occasion though, you do find the troops shooting by themselves on a range on off time and the just happen to be consuming Govt issue... Been there, done that...Darren?
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    On occasion though, you do find the troops shooting by themselves on a range on off time and the just happen to be consuming Govt issue... Been there, done that...Darren?
    I do know it does occur, but I do not know of any official sanction to do so, how the troops got that ammo there would be a Hardy Boys grade mystery...

    While I don't own a one of these pistols, I have observed that running IVI 9mm will hard recoil, batter the slide, and incur stoppages in a civilian Sig P226, whereas the same gun with American Eagle 9mm runs flawless. It lends credit to my idea that our Inglis Browning's are not inherently unreliable, just that IVI ammo may be a little warm for the recoil springs to manage. Jim, I do recall speaking with a friend of yours, D.Haines that he remarked 9mm ammunition used to come labelled differently for SMG vs Pistol Only, nowadays we only get one type, regardless of application. I do wonder if there was some powder loading difference between the rounds, and if the SMG spec stuff became the mainstay of the pistols.

    If I had some IVI 9mm issue ammo and a chrony I could put that theory to actual test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentryduty View Post
    I do know it does occur, but I do not know of any official sanction to do so, how the troops got that ammo there would be a Hardy Boys grade mystery...

    While I don't own a one of these pistols, I have observed that running IVI 9mm will hard recoil, batter the slide, and incur stoppages in a civilian Sig P226, whereas the same gun with American Eagle 9mm runs flawless. It lends credit to my idea that our Inglis Browning's are not inherently unreliable, just that IVI ammo may be a little warm for the recoil springs to manage. Jim, I do recall speaking with a friend of yours, D.Haines that he remarked 9mm ammunition used to come labelled differently for SMG vs Pistol Only, nowadays we only get one type, regardless of application. I do wonder if there was some powder loading difference between the rounds, and if the SMG spec stuff became the mainstay of the pistols.

    If I had some IVI 9mm issue ammo and a chrony I could put that theory to actual test.
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