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    Unusual No4 Pig Sticker Scabbard

    I have this No4 scabbard which seems unusual in that the frog button and ball end are polished steel. The body is a gloss black paint finish. It came with a standard issue Long Branch No4 MK2 bayonet. I personally removed the cosmolineicon from it and so I believe this polishing was done by a military organisation rather than a collector/re-enactor after disposal. Has any-one seen this before perhaps for use with ceremonial bayonets? Could it be of Canadianicon origin and perhaps they did the polishing. Thanks for any information.
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    Done by a) someone with a bit too much time on his hands or b) someone who needs to get out a bit more.

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    It did come in cosmolineicon plus a storage wrapping which I took to be military.

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    I think if you strip the black paint off you'll find it's completely chromed. Then they painted it black. The guys from Queen's Own Rifles of Canadaicon that I used to serve with told me they had bayonets for dress that had been done like this, same as we did FN bayonets. I had a full chrome one, others here have shown them. I think you'll find that's what you have...
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    Jim, do you think it would have ever been worn in it's completely chrome form, assuming that's what it is, or was that just the way that the button and ball was chromed? Simpler to just chrome the whole lot and paint black the part that you don't want shiny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    do you think it would have ever been worn in it's completely chrome form
    Yes, that's the way I was told they were used.
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    Like the Iraqi Palace guard chrome No1 rifles and the Royal Hong Kong Regt - ceremonial chrome No4's.

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    I've seen gold plated AKs too...we had a chrome plated FN C1 A1 in our unit(skill at arms trophy). It had been done without any authorization back in the old days, when the RQ found out, he about flipped. It had simply been taken from stores and done so it was still held by the stores as serviceable. I think it's in Regt Museum now...a monument to stupidity I should think...
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    I have also got a standard K98icon bayonet and scabbard but the scabbard is Nickel or Chrome plated. I think that it is Nickel but am not 100% certain. When I saw it for sale the scabbard had the appearance of tarnished aluminium and I assumed that the Germans must have produced some aluminium scabbards for some funny reason; I purchased it. When I got it home and started to clean it up I realised that it was in fact just a standard steel scabbard which had been plated. I did ask someone who I was told "knew all about German military stuff" who said that it was either a ceremonial or presentation piece. The odd thing is that the bayonet it's self is just the standard blued affair but, if memory serves me correctly, the serial numbers match.

    I will see about posting pictures later.

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    1st BN PPCLI still has a set of chromed Nella C7 Bayonets with hand made hardwood scales for parading The Colours with, I imagine those will show up somewhere in the future to confound collectors such as the above described items do.

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