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    Need help with high res WWII images of snipers with No 4 Mk 1 T

    I may be working on a magazine article and I need some help with historic images.

    I've found various images of WWII Brit and Canadianicon snipers with No 4 Mk 1 T rifles on the web. The problem is for magazine work I need:

    1. A high resolution version of the image.

    2. Verification that it can be used by the Copyright owner (if under Copyright).

    3. If possible, the original caption and info.

    I found one image that traces back to a Canadian military museum and I've sent them an e-mail. I do have the acquisition number and ID for that one.

    I've found other images though that either are not sourced or are sourced simply to IWM including some on the IWM Pinterest page. The problem is, they don't have id #s for me to use when I contact the musuem for rights issues or to get a higher resolution copy.

    Does anyone have the ID or acquisition numbers for any of these commonly found IWM sniper images? If needed I can post the images here, but I'm just wondering if anyone else has contacted the IWM and has the specific image ID info
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    Aside from the War Museum, you might be well served to contact the individual Regimental Museum's of units that actually fielded these pieces. From my time spent working for the museum manager I know there should be some material like what you are after, try the PPCLI section of the "The Military Museum" in Calgary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentryduty View Post
    Aside from the War Museum, you might be well served to contact the individual Regimental Museum's of units that actually fielded these pieces. From my time spent working for the museum manager I know there should be some material like what you are after, try the PPCLI section of the "The Military Museum" in Calgary.
    Yeah, that's the museum I contacted. I actually have the id numbers for their photo so should be able to get a copy.

    There's a bunch of good photos on the web the trick is being able to ID them by number so the museums can find them. It's not like I'm going to able to hand search through files.

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    The Canadian War Museum catalog Search. The photos are low res but you will be able to find what you like with catalog numbers and request higher res scans.

    Search Entry Point: http://catalogue.warmuseum.ca/musvw/...hMethod=Find_2

    Here is the collection search with "Sniper photograph". Click the link below to see all the photos that come up under the search term. You can play with the key words to find some really interesting stuff. The original caption is usually maintained.

    The Australianicon War Museum has a similar type search.


    http://catalogue.warmuseum.ca/musvw/...yChannelCount=


    Specific example from the search.

    http://catalogue.warmuseum.ca/musvw/...nd_2&ItemNr=14

    Attachment 75322

    Title Sniping school - Major Slater and Officers
    Author Canadian War Records Office
    Publisher / Date July 1916
    Description 1 photograph : b&w ; 9.5 x 12.0 cm.
    Notes Official CEF photo O.313.
    Notes Original negatives.Library and Archives Canadaicon,Ottawa, ON.
    Other formats Also available: Photo CD, image EO-0313.
    Rights and access For use and reproduction terms, please consult Canadian War Museum.
    Provenance Canadian War Records Office photographs acquired in 1992.
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    Thanks, very helpful. Not sure how I missed the search link on the Canadianicon museum site.

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    Very Welcome.

    I just tried "Sniper Training" brought a couple interesting images.

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    I have dozens of WWII Britishicon and Commonwealth sniper photos on my web site and I have listed just the information that you are looking for. Date, location, names, image number and source of the photo (where known). So often I see sniper photos published in books and on the Internet with little or no information, and even worse, with incorrect information. I hope this helps Trebor and others.

    Canadian photos taken before 1948 as I recall are no longer copyrighted. Museums and archives and other owners may of course charge fees for their time and effort in making copies. Some charge hefty fees but Canadian copyright law is clear that pre-1948 photos in Canadaicon are no longer copyrighted.

    Sometimes you will see photos from another country e.g. U.S. Photos where copies were deposited in British archives and then British archives claim copyright. They did not create them however.

    It is always best to try to get back to the original source and captions. Too often the captions become abbreviated and garbled and photos are frequently cropped, censored etc. The most common problem is that photos taken in safe areas are often passed off as "action" photos. Snipers appear to have often been asked (told) to pose in exposed positions because the photos will look better.

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    Seaforth Pic # 49 is Britishicon Private Francis Miller
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaforth72 View Post
    Great collection, though the photo that purports to be an "experimental" rifle on the shoulder of a RCEME Sgt. is just a cut down No.4(T). I believe the barrel is cut down as well, so could well be a rifle that suffered barrel damage due to an obstruction near the muzzle and was written off. Enterprising NCO then perhaps cut it down to make it serviceable again and and "adopted" it as a personal weapon. I suppose the RCEME bumped into the enemy sometimes too! Wouldn't surprise me if it came back to Canadaicon as a hunting rifle apres la guerre seeing as the fellow was that keen on it.
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