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    Yes, I've broken the odd pin. Not too much in the present though, not now that I can almost ID them at a distance...
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    Home defense Ammo for your 30 Carbine

    30 Carbine 85 Grain Xtreme Cavitator - Underwood Ammo

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    Frank,

    I have never seen anything like that. There seems to be an upsurge in hot (+2,000 fps) self defense Carbine ammo. While never having to use it for such, I would think any brand of 110 grain soft point up close and personal would be very effective.

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    I have also had issues with sticking the small but tapered cases in the F/L die and ripping the rims off. I thought it was me, but the REM-UMC brass has one or two out of 50 that have undersized rims. I never have an issue if I check for them prior to sizing. A friends Underwood seems to find each one and fails to eject. My Inland seems not to care. Maybe he needs a new extractor?

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    I've never seen this Ammo at all myself. I just thought I show it because of that. Any Round will do the job if your using a 30 Carbine for Home Defense.

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    Those bullets look like copper plated "square drive" bits! - Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    Those bullets look like copper plated "square drive" bits! - Bob
    In Canadaicon those are properly known as Robertson bits after their Canadian inventor, like Phillips but less prone to camming out of the fastener. If those rounds were available in Canada they would likely be re branded to "30 Carbine 85 Grain Robertson #2 Shot - Underwood Ammo" depending on the size of the square.
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    Shooting this Ammo through Denim and Ballistic Gel you get no deformity. This guy is shooting the. 45 cal round of the "Extreme Defender".


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    [QUOTE=browningautorifleicon;377601]Yes, I've broken the odd pin. QUOTE] We all have I'm sure. I stopped most of it by using (ready for the gasps of disgust) Lee dies. You hit a berdan and the whole pin and rod push up without breaking and yes if it does happen you break or bend it you really can replace them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDH View Post
    (ready for the gasps of disgust)
    Not from me! Their "stuff" is more affordable and works fine for my purposes. I don't like their shell holder for .30 Carbine though, too loose of a fit and tears off more of the rims. - Bob

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