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    I'm relatively new to the confusing world of Japaneseicon rifles. Quite some years ago I came across a few barreled actions a gentleman sold me for peanuts. Thinking this would be like any other restoration project I jumped on them. Well, I learned my lesson and understand that restoring these guns will cost about three times what I could just buy them for. Alas, where's the fun in that? I decided to just do one for now. I know finding the correct stock is a needle in a haystack scenario but I want to make sure I'm buying all the right parts for the gun I have, not just the stock.
    If the pros here could chime in and let me know what I have and what would be correct, I'd be greatly appreciative.









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    At least the mum looks nice and the finish seems clean on this one for a starter.
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    That's why I decided go with this one. Of the three actions I had to choose from one had a ground mum, the that has the "x" over the mum. This one was fully intact as you can see by was the most heavily stripped, meaning there weren't even any sights on it unlike the other two. So figuring out if it's early or late war even has been difficult.



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    It's a Nagoya with a series mark that is half obscured which isn't helpful. They only went from no series to series 1-12 and it looks most like 12 but they only made 1000 of them so that's out. Best guess of those that are possible is series 10. But I am admittedly miserable at reading the series numbers.

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    I was having issues with the series as well. I have a great book but to be honest, it's really hard to discern what that symbol is.



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    Well since the receiver lacks the type 99 designation normally found under the mum it's safe to assume that your barreled receiver is from a later transitional or last ditch rifle made by the Nagoya arsenal, my best guess is it's from a series 10 Nagoya. Those can be tricky to find stocks for as some were equipped with a stock that had a separate fore end and others had the normal full stocks. As far as the bolt's concerned you would have to find cylindrical styled bolt handle with a welded safety indicator with the numbers 889. The front barrel band should be the riveted type and you would have a short hand guard and a wooden butt plate. Yours should look real similar to this one in my collection, also a series 10 but in the 96,000 serial number range.

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    That was extremely helpful. Thank you! I learned some lessons the hard way with this rifle, like buying a stock that is altogether wrong for it. It has a full length hand guard and a steel butt plate. I guess I'll hang onto it for yet another "someday" project. I really appreciate the information. I don't feel anywhere near as lost at this point.



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