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[RFP]

I have a Krag made in 1901. Serial # 307422. It has 1093 stamped on right side of butt stock. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks

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[Badger]

Hi ...

You might want to try the Google CSE custom search engine located in the top right corner where it says "Search Milsurps.Com"

For example, in your case, type in the words krag 1901 or just krag and see what happens ..

I only had a quick look, so I'm not sure what the exact content is about, however, it turned up many past threads. Perhaps there's information contained there that may be helpful.

Also, posting pics would be useful for everyone ..

Regards,
Doug

[browningautorifle]

Nothing between 298984 and 308067, which was a carbine, except for 304641. the first two are both rifles and not even close in their issue unit. The carbine went for test. Yours has no hits. I suspect the stock to be a replacement or refurb. Perhaps changed somewhere during the 100 years since it left service...I also am guessing the 1093 means 1903... Or is it a rack number?

[butlersrangers]

Your Krag, #307422, falls between two SRS documented model 1898 rifles, (#307193 - destroyed by the New Cumberland Guard, 5-17-1929, and #307951 - WW2 donation to USN, 07-02-1943). This really reveals nothing about your particular Krag.

It is likely, your receiver is marked "model 1898" and was produced around January-February, 1901. Carbines during this period were marked "model 1899".

The U.S. Military normally did not mark the 'right-side' of the Krag stock (butt). It is possible the "#1093" marking is a National Guard or private Military School rack or inventory number (???). The Krag did see widespread use as a WW1 'training rifle'.

As 'Badger' suggested, photographs might allow more observations related to your Krag.

[RFP]

I'm sure 1093 is a rack number. It's also stamped jsa 1901 on left side and I know that's jsa adams. Just hoping I could find out a little more history. Thanks for the replies.

[butlersrangers]

'RFP' - Generally, very little is known about a specific service rifle's history (Krag or others).

Only a small percentage of U.S. Arms were found in official documents and got recorded in the SRS Books. (Springfield Research Services data started by Franklin Mallory).

Your Krag has a nice agreement between its likely manufacture date and the "JSA-1901" Acceptance Cartouche. Your rifle is possibly in its original stock.

Lots of U.S. Krags went back to Springfield Armory (or Benicia, Rock Island, or Manila Arsenals) for updates, repair, or reconditioning/refinishing. This resulted in disassembly and mixing of parts. Some repair work was done in the 'Field' and by National Guard units.

Some Krags had fairly long service use from approximately 1894 to the early 1920s. The #1093, "rack number", could also be from Army or Naval Reserves, VFW, or another Fraternal Organization.

BTW - "J.S.A." was Joseph Sumner Adams. He worked at Springfield Armory from the 1860s to about 1919. He rose to be the Assistant Foreman of the Assembling Room. Following the 1894 death of Samuel W. Porter, (the last 'Master Armorer" at Springfield), J. Sumner Adams' initials appeared on all Krags, when first assembled, inspected and accepted into service, from June, 1894, to the end of production in 1904. The "J.S.A." Cartouche also appears on some 1903 Springfield rifles.