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    Some pics of my Remington P14.

    The gun is incomplete, I have the buttplate and the upper band. The bolt, receiver and barrel all match but not the rear sight, most parts are Remington, the rear sight axis nut is probably not original or it's a different type I don't know. The bore is dark but the rifling are sharp.


    The stock is cracked, is it repairable or should I replace it?

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    Buster, What you have is all pretty nice. Nice markings and bluing. The stock isn't bad either, I would keep it. The crack is minor and could easily be repaired. The stocks I see for sale are rougher than yours. Check out BRP for parts. I restored a couple of P14's with their parts. Salt Flat

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    I agree that crack is minor and could be repaired. That sight screw is something I don't recall seeing before. Overall, a nice rifle in my opinion.

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    I would concur with the consensus; from the apparent location of the crack to your stock, which is depicted in your images, it is mostly of a superficial and cosmetic nature, posing no immediate safety concerns. But I would still shop around seeking a competent; gunsmith, or a woodworking shop, or even a cabinet maker, and they should be able to secure this fracture and do so in an undetectable manner. Enjoy your P14, that's why we buy them!

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    My Remington P14 is in the 93,000 serial number range. Mine also has a crack in the same location that seems to have an arsenal repair. It was drilled down from the top with 2 dowels hammered in there and some sort of glue applied. The repair is solid as a rock. That seems to be a common place for them to crack so yes it is repairable.

    Yours is older than mine but it doesn't show the markings of a Weedon repair meaning that is probably the original bolt from when the rifle was made. Mine had gone through one of the repair depots at the beginning of WWII and had the bolt replaced with one with the larger bolt lug and was force numbered to the rifle. You can see in the picture that the barrel face was relieved at the chamber for the larger bolt lug. Having one that didn't have a Weedon repair done is somewhat rare and is a keeper for sure.

    Notice the "daisy" stamp on the bolt handle and the receiver (on the receiver it's the one with the circle in the middle, the other is the double broad arrow meaning sold out of service which yours doesn't have either). That is the indication that a Weedon repair was done. I also have that daisy stamp on the buttstock. Your rifle was made around May-June 1916 mine was made June-July 1916. All rifles in possession of the Britishicon made before December 1916 went through the Weedon repair so if they had it in their stores it should have had the repair. I wonder where it was so that didn't happen to it. Bill

    edit: Notice the 16 on my barrel which indicates the year it was made. Yours is partly on the barrel and partly on the receiver. I've never seen one like that before, interesting. I also noticed the Nitro Proof marking which I think means it was sold to the home market (in Britain) but I don't know for sure.
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    I have a "spare" P14 stock which I may use to fit to a U.K. deactivated P14 which came incorrectly fitted with a P17 stock and this P14 stock is cracked in exactly the same place as the example in post 1. I think that it may be repairable by getting glue into the crack and then drilling down vertically into the chunk of wood close to the word "crack", last picture post 1. There should be enough room for at least 1 and possibly 2 hardwood pegs carefully tapped and glued into place.

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    Thanks for the replies, I really appreciate that. Is it possible to use brass screws instead of wood dowels to repair the crack? And for glue Titebond III is good enough?

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    Dowels can be made invisible screws can't. The usual adhesive to use is a bedding epoxy which comes in or can be dyed brown to make the repair somewhat invisible. If you can give me some time I'll post a pic of the repair on mine to give you an idea of how to do it. Bill

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    They do need to be hardwood dowels and I believe that Peter recommends oak which is what I have used in the past. If you try to use wood screws on this repair, in my opinion, there is a good chance that you will create secondary split/s. There has been some debate on this Forum about exactly what kind of glue is most suitable but wood glue would seem like a good choice in this instance.

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    I don't know when this repair was done possibly during it's Weedon refurb. It's very solid.
    The crack is between the red lines the dark circles of 2 dowels can be seen on top next to the sight base.

    I don't believe any other type of repair will hold as long or be as strong as this one.
    There is no trace of this repair on the inside of the stock.
    From a few inches away none of it can be seen you couldn't say that about a repair done with screws.

    Please excuse the spastic lines I did them on my phone. Bill
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