84 Carbine shoots high

[shjoe]

Thanks Mark,Nice targets,where did you get them? What type are they?ie-200yd large bore? Lee W.

Oakfarm - as other members have mentioned, there is a significant difference in POI between the folded "battle sight" and the vertical sight leaf when shooting at close range (100-200yds). i use my previously cut down rifle/carbine for hunting and have been able to attain an aproximate 100yd zero by canging the front sight blade to a taller one from a M1903A3, then at the range, file down the sight until i had the results i needed. as others have said, your rear sight leaf graduations will be somewhat scewed, but not by as much as you may think, esp at close range. further out (300+yds) due to the tradjectory of the 405gr bullet, there is more of a difference. the cartridge loading would be another factor to consider. my hunting carbine shoots reasonable off hand hunting groups of 3-4 inches and approx 2" high at 75-80yds and the same size groups about 2" low at 120yds. i wont get a longer range shot in the maine woods where i hunt, so that is acceptable to me. my reloads are based somewhat on Wolf's "The Book" on 45/70 cartridge loading. i use 53gr of FFg with a lubed veggy wad (to partly compress the powder) followed by a cast 405gr RN lubed bullet. i drilled out the primer hole per Wolf's instructions. this loading works in my rifle only. you milage may vary. best, john

[Mark Daiute]

I made them up myself. the black is 6" in diameter... Aren't the 100 yard NRA targets (simulated 200 yrd) 6 inch bulls? I thought I patterened the dimensions after the NRA dimensions. Maybe not.

I'm an out of work land surveyor. I have a couple of plotters as well as a blue line (blueprint) machine so I can simply print the targets or print a vellum of the target and then run a bunch of blue line targets.

Shjoe- I live in Newcastle, Maine. Where do you hunt?

[shjoe]

I made them up myself. the black is 6" in diameter... Aren't the 100 yard NRA targets (simulated 200 yrd) 6 inch bulls? I thought I patterened the dimensions after the NRA dimensions. Maybe not.

I'm an out of work land surveyor. I have a couple of plotters as well as a blue line (blueprint) machine so I can simply print the targets or print a vellum of the target and then run a bunch of blue line targets.

Shjoe- I live in Newcastle, Maine. Where do you hunt?

Mark, i alternately hunt in two areas of maine. georgetown island and central maine, near madison. both areas are typical new england hunting conditions and tend to favor short barreled carbines such as marlins, winchesters. in some cases, a shotgun could be used effectively. best, john