Broken original type one band vs replacement. Legit?

[painter777]

One of his is a 3 weld, ends in 7 days.

Have notes about 3 weld bands found on Underwoods where the welds are in a slight triangular pattern. These weld spots are oval in shape.
On SG's, the welds are round and in more of a straight/uniform pattern.

fwiw,

ch-p777

[HDSledge]

Looks conclusive so far. I think I'll be sending my replacement back for a refund. I appreciate all the pics and information you guys supplied.

[painter777]

Orion could have been fooled by it.
All in the carbine world have been taken at one time.

I remember having a Magcatch in my watch box on GB. Was using the markings as a 'WHAT NOT TO BUY EXAMPLE'.
While laid up from a run in with a horse, my wife used my account and bought it. A FAKE from george!!. Some like JimF may remember this. I didn't have the heart to tell her it was humped.
Worst part was .............. George left feedback something like this.............. ~"Thanks for your continued support" He often trolled the sites and knew I beat on him hard.

Good Luck HD,
Charlie-painter777

[Flying10uk]

I don't think that you can read too much into the appearance of the spot welds which are quite likely to vary from band to band. This is because no 2 set-ups of the spot welding machine in WW2 would have been exactly the same in every respect. During the set-up procedure of the machine there are many variables which can be changed by the person setting up the machine and the welder/setter will have their own preferences and ideas on how best the spot welder should be set. There are also many different styles of electrode used for spot welding but there is always an electrode on each side of the metals to be joined together.

The obvious bottom line is that however the spot welder is set up the resulting joint should be strong and long lasting. The normal practice is to test the set up with some scrap material; weld, then try to break apart and a hole in one piece of metal should result but the weld should not fail.

[browningautorifle]

I don't think that you can read too much into the appearance of the spot welds which are quite likely to vary from band to band.

It's one of the ways they tell real from fake.

[Flying10uk]

No 2 people will set up a spot welder machine exactly the same as each other- there will be variations.

[HDSledge]

No 2 people will set up a spot welder machine exactly the same as each other- there will be variations.

From what I have seen some operators must go so fast that they smear the welds. After all the carbine production was a rush job from the start. I can picture the guy/gal on the line popping them out as fast as they can and neatness be damned just get 'em put together.

[Flying10uk]

You do get lazy spot welders and lazy setters, like everything else in life, who can't be bothered to do their job properly, i.e. set the machine correctly, test the set up and operate the machine correctly.