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    Why Welded Muzzle Breaks? And Inexpensive Good Starter AR 5.56

    Stopped by local (small) gun shop today, guy was busy, so I briefed thru a catalog he had looking at Windham AR15s.
    Noticed in the descriptions on a few models that stated 'Welded Muzzle Breaks'.
    Didn't get a chance to ask him anything about it as he was busy arguing John Deere tractors vs Kubota with a local.
    Actually didn't get a look under the counter glass either as they were consumed with their point vs counter points.
    Did over hear that THE greatest invention ever was the manure spreader!
    Yes I live in a small town.

    But why welded on muzzle breaks?
    Is it some new law for a specific state(s)?

    Also looking to pick up a ready to go AR in 5.56 for my son (a part time shooter) that would be cheaper than high end. Makers? Model? Price range? Say $650 - under.


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    I think it's to make a barrel shorter then 16" legal. If the total length with the welded on muzzle device is 16" it's not a SBR.

    Check out the Ruger 5.56 for your boy. I bought my eldest one, he likes it. Great value at around $550-$600. S&W has the MP15 sport, another good one for not a lot.

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    Kubota or Deere?
    There seems to be some downward pressure on AR prices with good buys on lots of the makers ARs. Ditto on Ruger.

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    An M4 barrel is 14" without the flash hider. If you weld and pin a muzzle brake on the barrel you now have a legal 16" barrel and it is a good copy for a real M4 (plus the bayonet fits properly). Same with XM177 11.5" barrels with a welded and pinned 5.5" flash hider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR View Post
    An M4 barrel is 14" without the flash hider. If you weld and pin a muzzle brake on the barrel you now have a legal 16" barrel and it is a good copy for a real M4 (plus the bayonet fits properly). Same with XM177 11.5" barrels with a welded and pinned 5.5" flash hider.
    Like this.
    Extended A-1 flash hider blind pinned & tig welded on a Colt 651 clone.

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    Michigan State Law says overall length must be 30 inches not Fed's 28 inches. So many folders have a longer muzzle break welded on. Or you can register it as a pistol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    Extended A-1 flash hider blind pinned & tig welded on a Colt 651 clone.
    And looking pretty good too.
    Regards, Jim

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    Top carbine is a typical clone M4 with a 16" barrel and flash hider attached
    Bottom carbine has an M4 14" barrel with flash hider pinned and welded
    Attachment 79888

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    Speaking of clones, Colt has unveiled at Shot Show their replica M16A1 semi-auto limited edition @ 2500 units a year. They want $2500.00 a piece though. One can pickup an SP1 for at least a grand less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR View Post
    Top carbine is a typical clone M4 with a 16" barrel and flash hider attached
    Bottom carbine has an M4 14" barrel
    Also looking fine.
    Regards, Jim

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