What have I got here?

[painter777]

Early? Jap 99?
Don't know anything about them.

Came in New years night:

https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....548#post385548


Thx,
Charlie-Painter777



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What does the W or M stand for??

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[painter777]

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[Patrick Chadwick]

Type 99, Nagoya Arsenal, Toriimatsu factory.
Bolt no. does not match receiver.
2nd series - at left of number, in circle, rectangle is character for "2".

Backsight prepared fo AA-"wings" - missing or, maybe never fitted.
Rear barrel band fitting for monpod - missing, or never fitted.

" 99 Type" marking and imperial chrysanthemum marking have been totally scrubbed.
Receiver was drilled and tapped for scope. More than once, apparently. Holes now plugged and staked, hence total loss of any remains of the original markings. Irregularity and break-out in loading bridge shows that this was a Bubba job, not arsenal work. Not an original sniper.
Likewise, the bolt handle was originally straight. Bubba bent it down gruesomely when fitting his scope. In the bend, the metal is on the verge of fracturing.

"W" is an inspection mark for some stage of the work.
"WEG" scratched on the butt is Bubba's work.

See Honeycutt, "Military Rifles of Japan" pp.92-3.

[Ovidio]

You beat me by one minute, argh......
One on my wish list!

[Aragorn243]

One on my wish list!

You're wishing for a Bubba Type 99 with a bent bolt and bad drill and tap repairs?

[painter777]

Are those W or M stamps?

What do they stand for?

Bolt handle looks to have been heated and bent? Or are they suppose to be like this?

I'll investigate more on my own, just needed a kick start.

BTW, the initials carved on it are the Grandfathers' of the young guy that passed it along.

Appreciate your help gentlemen,

Charlie


PS Patrick, I don't believe it's worth the price of the book

[Patrick Chadwick]

PS Patrick, I don't believe it's worth the price of the book

You're right, be glad that I bought the book !

[burb1989]

As for the bent handle no they are supposed to be a straight handle unless it is a sniper version, which yours is not. The grandfather was the bubba on this particular project it seems like since his initials are on the stock. I would say trash the bolt and get a new one but still it has a messed up receiver and you can't hide that unless you want to spend a fortune rebluing it and further lowering the value. To me anyway it's worth its weight in parts as the stock looks ok as does the internals of the bolt and the metal hardware like the barrel band, bayonet lug, butt plate, and all the screws. This one would be a great donor rifle for a sportered one from the same series that was all matching and mummed but had a chopped stock.

[Aragorn243]

Bolt handle not supposed to look like that. Should be straight. Drill and tapping not supposed to be there either. Other than that, not a terrible rifle. If it were mine, I'd hang onto it, look for a good rifle in a bad stock or sporter stock and swap them out. This one probably make a decent shooter but with the drill and tapping, never a collector piece. Bolts can be replaced. The stock looks complete and unbroken. Check into the price of stocks on ebay, you'll probably be surprised. A lot of times you can get a complete rifle for less than a stock sells for on there.

[Ovidio]

If you want to work on the stock, be very careful. There is quite a bit of literature about allergic reactions to the Jap finishing products.

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Quote Originally Posted by Ovidio View Post
One on my wish list!
You're wishing for a Bubba Type 99 with a bent bolt and bad drill and tap repairs?

Well, not really. I'd like a good one, but if someone brought me one like this just for free.............