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    Would it be possible that Keystone was a subcontractor in making stock for Overton OI ???. You had Saginaw make receivers for Inld. & the SG stamp on the Inld. receiver .

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    I don't think Overton subcontracted any stock production as their stocks were made in house. Possibly a stock provided to another supplier and overstamped.

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    Does anyone know if the book "The M1icon Carbine: A Revolution in Gun Stocking" mentions anything about stock transfers or subcontracts at S.E. Overton? I had a "PJ" marked Type 3 stock which I think was made by Pedersen for Jewel Bros. - Bob

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    Inland had transferred stocks come in from Trimble and the Irwins RSG marked with Serif I stamped along with Inland size CC.
    Also RMC IIRC I believe most all where type II Oval Hi woods.
    Maybe more, I belief Ruth stated they had some come in IIRC.

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    Maybe Pedersen kicked in to help Jamestown?
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    All good info there Charlie, Thanks! I no longer have the P-J (with a hyphen) Type 3 stock but found some notes showing that it had an L J Type 3 recoil plate and an Inland buttplate, but no crossed cannons - also had a Benicia rebuild stamp on the pistol grip. I told the buyer it was a WWII replacement stock, Pedersen for Jewel Bros. and was likely installed at Benicia during a rebuild. - Bob

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    I lived 8 miles from the Benica arsenal. Saw it torn down replaced with small shops. Funny, I've never had a Benica marked stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimF4M1sicon View Post
    I lived 8 miles from the Benica arsenal. Saw it torn down replaced with small shops. Funny, I've never had a Benica marked stock.
    It seemed odd to me that the arsenal stamp was on the pistol grip. Meant to look that up, but got side tracked and don't believe I ever did. - Bob

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    If the circle K is a Korean stamp then the stock was made for Inland during WW2. Went through a rebuild post war before being shipped to Korea. There the K stamp and the number 7 were applied as an acceptance stamp by the Korean army or after a rebuild in Korea. But I think it's an acceptance stamp by the Korean military.

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    [QUOTE=USGI;389132]It seemed odd to me that the arsenal stamp was on the pistol grip. Meant to look that up, but got side tracked and don't believe I ever did.

    A rebuild mark could be on the face of the pistol grip only if a previous marking was not there. A typical existing mark might be the large circle P original proof. An additional P might be on the curved front of the pistol grip. Non-U.S. marks over old existing marks on the face of the grip are common on some imports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    If the circle K is a Korean stamp then the stock was made for Inland during WW2. Went through a rebuild post war before being shipped to Korea. There the K stamp and the number 7 were applied as an acceptance stamp by the Korean army or after a rebuild in Korea. But I think it's an acceptance stamp by the Korean military.
    Bruce, I am not saying it's not a Korean acceptance stamp, but of all of the thousands of Koreans return stocks out there right now why did didn't more of them have the circled K in the slingwell like this stock does? If it's a Keystone stock, then another set of problems arises with the OI stamp. Given the later period of the war when this stock would have been used, perhaps Inland was running short on M2 stocks and sourced out whatever was available at the time. Double markings in M1icon carbine slingwells are known to exist, so why not M2? I'm guessing as the war wound down, neither Inland or Winchester wanted to get stuck with extra parts lying around. It be great to find out a definitive marker (Keystone or anyone else) of this stock or if it's a Korean marking. There's probably a pretty good chance at this point we may never know

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