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    Question Found at my Granddads.

    Recently when rummaging through my Granddads garage we came across what seems to be his weapons collection of some sort. His Dad served in Burma so there is a possibility thats where these came from. Please could someone check these out for me to see if they have any value or worth. Thank you very much .
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    Kukri knife, from some Gurkha units. This could be worth some money (I'd keep it). A no. 4 spike bayonet, little worth but still a nice item (goes here for ca. 50€) and a long bayo I can't recognize without looking into some books. Might be a no. 1 (SMLE) bayo? Reminds me of mine, but I haven't looked at it for some time now. Here it could be worth from 80 to 150€.
    The last knife is definitely not military, but again, nice item. Might be Indian.
    I'm no expert in blades, but I guess this could be what they are.

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    Thank you.

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    If it helps I can confirm the Gurkha badge as being of the 5th Gurkha Rifles
    The Britishicon Indian Army had ten Gurkha regiments and the 5th Royal Gurkha Rifles (Frontier Force) was the only one attributed with the prefix Royal and was the only Regiment of Gurkhas that served in the Punjab Frontier Force.

    When India became independent in 1947 four Gurkha regiments (2nd, 3rd, 6th and 10th) transferred to the British Army and amalgamated to become the present Royal Gurkha Rifles.

    Value of the Kukri is about £100 from a Militaria dealer the other bits and pieces are open to whatever someone is willing to pay to add to their collection but not a great deal I'm afraid. The Arabian dagger is again open to whatever someone is willing to pay for it, sadly too many on the circuit. I sold my whole collection last year and a dagger similar to that made £20.
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    Gil is right, it's Arabian, maybe Yemenite.
    Looking at it from a pc is easier than through a phone.
    Sorry for the mistake.

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    That '07 bayonet fits the No.1 MkIII rifle is a MOLE manufacture with no clearance hole they are one of the scarcer ones made during WWI they can go to 300-380'ish +/$'s AU depending on blade condition as it is a tad grotty the tear drop scabbard is correct oldsmithy is pretty ofair with this so will give you some tips to bring the bayonet back.

    Just as a side note worth can be construed as two things if you like and that is their worth to you as a family its history and insurance or the other option sale price I know some people do not wish these types of items but I try to get them to think of their history and what it means for not only then when they were carried with conviction but to this day the memories/history which will never be repeated.
    I am still mad at myself for not trying to glean more info from my father even though he never spoke of his O/S 4 year experience in WWII perhaps if I had shown the same passion for the history of it like I do now he may have said something to me alas it was not to be like I have said he only spoke one sentence to my brother in law an ex viet vet and that was the Japs bombed them and it was not nice.
    I really do advise you trace the service history as much as possible for future generations. "For it is the doom of men that they forget" Merlin the Necromancer to Uther Pendragon from the Excaliber Legend.......
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    Welcome to the forum... The Kukri is a tourist model...made for tourists. We'd only get perhaps $100 CDN here for one. They're common. A Gurkha collar badge won't make it authentic...is that badge even original Gil? It looks a bit rough for an issue dress item?
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    In George Macdonald Frasers' memoir of the Burma campaign he noted that in his section most of the men carried kukris, even though he was in a Cumbrian border regiment. He also noted he had purchased it himself. 19 Rupees IIRC, and in the end it was stolen. Though the kukri is not a issue item it may well be a WW2 era souvenir carried by your grandfather in Burma.
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    Jim,
    Yes absolutely original, and hand carved which a lot of the Gurkha lads were dab hand at, especially if they lost their issue cap badges. They were however, hopeless at carving the Queens or Kings crown.

    I remember when I was in Aldershot, they were stationed at Church Crookham nearby. We often gave them intricate tasks of carving which ended up very much like that badge, that we then gave as leaving presents for the guys leaving the Regiment.

    They were accomplished in decorating their own "killing" kukris just like the image. The Regimental worn cap badges and their issue Kukris were a different matter and highly polished and could not be tampered with.
    Great blokes and great curry evenings too!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    Great blokes and great curry evenings too!!
    We had them around from time to time, that's where my Kukri came from...
    Regards, Jim

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