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    Looking for date of manufacture and stamp help

    Picked up a matching (bolt, mag and receiver) no.4mk1 Fazakerley.

    Can anyone tell me the DOM?
    serial is:
    D25272A

    And what Stamps should there be on the barrel bands? It's currently wearing savage ones.

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    If it has been through a field workshop or infact a FTR the armourers were not interested in matching allot of the ancillary parts like the bands but grabbed what was there and plonked them on perfectly accepted practice I have been looking at Strattons book but will wait for others to chime in to answer the DOM question any markings on the barrel at the knox form may be able to get some dates of there. Pictures are also good for the knowledgeable crew here plus we all like to look at them.

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    I doubt very much anyone here will be able to tell you the DATE of manufacture but if you give us the exact and correct details of all the butt socket and barrel markings, someone will decipher them to come up with a year. The correct stamp mark for the barrel bands etc etc is what's stamped on them. That's how and why the rifle was designed....... to be simplified!

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    Haha, I guess 'date' was the wrong wording, yes just the year is what I'm after.

    I think this rifle was a de-sporter, the wood has no markings at all so probably sanded?

    I will take some pictures today and post as many as I can.

    Thanks CINDERS! I dont see any FTR markings, but I am not familiar with all the wrist stamps thats on it.
    It has a decent 2 groove barrel and I will pull the wood to find possible dates.
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    Looking forward to the pictures. As an aside Faz rifle markings were very crudely (usually, anyway) hand stamped onto the butt socket below the safety on earlier rifles, then from mid-war onwards they were engraved onto the upper receiver sidewall flat below the rear sight. These engraved markings on the sidewall are usually quite shallow & difficult to read, especially after a couple of FTR's!

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    OK here's a few snaps of what I could find without removing the forend.


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    Faz April 42. As you have shown many of the parts bear the F of same factory. The SM41 on the foresight protector represents Singer Manufacturing & was produced in 1941 (Singer was a very common subcontractor). It also looks like your rifle has acquired a Long Branch safety at some point - not that that matters a jot so long as it does its job.

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    Thanks Roger!
    Just what I was looking for!

    Can you tell me which stamp indicates the date?

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    Also, would this wood be more 'appropriate' as the wood I have is canadian stamped?


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    On the butt socket left side you can just make out the '42 manufacture date

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