I think it's fair to say the sales pitch is creative!

[BushyFromOz]

BFO how do they trace the provenance of these things anyone can mod an '07 and age the marks there are some clever people out there not saying anything about that '07 just how does one tell the real mcCoy's.

i actually dont mind too much that it was modded (though about doing it myself several times, if i could find a stuffed 1907 as the right price). It irks me they did such a bad job of it. That sale to me is a targeted rip off for the unwary. There is no reason it cannot be identified. Even my google fu is not that weak.

Im considering buying a knockoff no5 somone is trying to pass of in a local gunshop.

I could use the action, mod the stock and sell it as a sporter stock, as well as the genuine no5 sight and the muzzle flash/bayonet lug ut has on it.

It shits me as it was a matching Fazakerly with the serialised magazine and a amazing wallnut stock before it got butchered.

I could get the spare action i need and prevent some other schmuck getting ripped off

[browningautorifle]

though about doing it myself several times, if i could find a stuffed 1907 as the right price

I've done a couple that were already hammered...for guys. They had already been done so I cleaned the lines up.

[Buccaneer]

An interesting one this, I contacted the seller to point out that that the item was in fact from a Swedish Mauser and not the one used for the L42 CES.
He came back to me saying that as an ex army SNCO that these were in fact issued with the L42 when the supply of the single bottle ran out.
I have never seen any specification for the CES which describes anything other than the single bottle so if the double bottle was being used does this mean that it was official and that for a good while now people have been paying hundreds of pounds for the plastic bottle when they could have picked up one of these twin bottles for just a few quid???

[bigduke6]

I'd be tempted to buy it and cut it in half, file to the profile should be enough meat on the middle bit to make two tabs to glue on each bottle and attach the chain to. A bit closer to the real deal than a Pi** bottle.

[Ovidio]

Well, I started a thread for a 6,5x62 mm Carcano.
My magnum wildcat;-D

[Peter Laidler]

Thread 13, Buccaneer. You could ask him for the authority/approval number if that was the case (it wasn't!). The fact is that the original bottle didn't 'run out' as he says but was available long after the L42 was withdrawn. Too late now of course but just shows how they spin us all along........

[Flying10uk]

I think it's fair to say the sales pitch is creative!

I assume that the seller knows what he's talking about because if it's who I think it is he's an ex armourer. I won't say who, but I leave it to him, if he wishes, to make any comments.

[Buccaneer]

I assume that the seller knows what he's talking about because if it's who I think it is he's an ex armourer. I won't say who, but I leave it to him, if he wishes, to make any comments.

I have had several very interesting and pleasant email exchanges with the seller who is an ex Army SNCO armourer. I asked if there was any official authority for the use of the twin tubes or was it a case of "that's what we have so fit it anyway". His answer was "You are quite correct with your comment of; That's what we have, so fit it anyway. I have seen no officially sanctioned documentation to support my comments / experience of what I told you previously. It was simply, just done!.....As this was noticed towards the end of the useful Service life of the L42. This would have made complete sense logistically. After all, if you are casting a weapon system, WHY would you buy in non essential spare / accessories at a huge cost to the public purse, if the system / equipment was going to be got rid of."
I was at the Birmingham Arms & Militaria fair last Sunday and I was talking to another ex army armourer about this subject and he also confirmed that he had seen / used the twin bottles in the L42 CES kits but he said that he never saw any in the L96 ones.
It would therefor seem that although there was no official documentation to support the use of the twin bottles they were if fact used, if only for a short time, towards the end of the lifespan of the L42.
So the sellers claim that they were "genuine" can be taken as correct as in his experience they were used, but as the CES specification was never altered to include them then for the collector the only correct item would be the single bottle.
It has been pointed out many times on this forum that the first item out of the spares rack was the one that was fitted and no one bothered to see if they were "matching" so it would seem in this case what they had is what they used.
If the seller reads this then many thanks for answering all of my questions, I will not name him but if he wishes to comment then that's up to him.

[Flying10uk]

ex Army SNCO armourer.

He's a good chap in my experience and wouldn't knowingly misrepresent something, in my opinion.

[Peter Laidler]

So it WAS official then......... or it wasn't...... That is the Q!