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    I have just spotted that the seller has relisted the twin bottle with a footnote that I suggested saying that these bottles were not officially recognised.

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    Can't really fake the real thing I would say ....

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    Even the lens tissues and little brush are original in yours CODFan!

    I think the only real similarities of the original Charlie G pull through container and the double one shown by the OP is that they were made in Swedenicon.

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    So how much smaller are they compared to the single bottle ?

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    OK Gentlemen, I think I will step in here. As I have only just seen this thread.

    I can openly state, that I am the seller in 'Question'! The listing description is a factual account of my own experience of these type of bottles. & is clearly described in the listing data. Peter, our much respected 'Sage' on all things Small arms related. Has correctly stated the procedure's paperwork wise. On In Service Weapons during that Period in time. However, as also explained in the description, anomalies DID occur in Service!

    I can only say what I personally experienced late in the day over these L42 weapon systems. Luckily for Me, Buccaneer has also enquired with other former service Armourers. Who also concur with my statements on these little bottles. So it is not just me, laying out a fanciful 'fairy Story'!.......
    I would NEVER do that, & along with most of you guys. faced with a similar situation. Would ALSO be sceptical!........

    However, the full (My) explanation is in that listing description. & that is actually what happened to me late in the day of the L42. & full reasoning behind the alternative issue of these bottles to my unit at that time. Peter has stated the Bottles were in 'Plentiful supply' then also, & for a while after withdrawal. I do not question His account at all. He is senior to me in Service, & also a Personal Colleague. But he will I'm sure, understand what I have written in my description. As things DID indeed, occur at times. Which were never documented, were against regulations, were utilised but never OFFICIALY sanctioned Etc. I could think of hundred's of examples, as could he. If he were taxed to scan his memory Banks!

    I have even encountered (& I'm SURE this has happened to others also) the frustration of putting a spares demand indent in. & receiving a totally different item! This is what happened to me over these bottles initially, & was 'clarified' over the phone at that time. As to why I had received a couple of these, & not the single container! Now when you think about it, way back then over such an INSIGNIFICANT NON essential item of CES. WHY would I delve further into the whys & wherefores of their issue?.........Peter will also concur I'm certain. that we as Armourers, had Far more important priorities & things to do. than worry about plastic oil bottles!......

    As a parallel addition to this explanation. Approx. a year ago, I purchased at a large Militaria fair. & carrier bag FULL of small arms cleaning apurtences (That's accessories to you lot! ) In this bag along with the majority of L85 Cleaning kit items. to my utter delight, were a batch of genuine L42 scope lens cleaning brushes. ALL nato Stock numbered. & lo & Behold, SOME of them WERE the 'Mk.II' cut down Variants. Done so they WOULD fit into the small twin tubed containers! STILL sporting the SAME NSN's !!!.....I never thought much about it at the time, & didn't question it in my mind. Because When I explained to the ordnance 'bod' on the phone that the brushes would not fit these. He said 'you only need to cut the handles down to fit'........
    And these brushes were done already, VERY neatly machine cut! ALSO confirming the issue procedure explained earlier here.

    As Most (NOT All!) books on particular subject. Are written in a LOT of cases by Civilian's, who have never served in our Armed forces. I have ALWAYS advised 'collectors' & 'instant experts' who have not been in Uniform. To use their books as a GUIDE only! & NOT to slavishly follow all of the content! And keep an open mind at all times.
    Because, as sure as eggs are eggs. Sooner or later SOMTHING will come along, to disprove 'The Bible' !........ I would stake my reputation on it, that other Forum members on here. Who Have/Are served in Britishicon military Service. Have at one time or another. Encountered some type of example of this kind of situation. If they are honest.....

    I am grateful to those who have come forward to defend my reputation in this matter. Some of who know Me quite well. & know Me to be Honest & forthcoming with my assistance where needed.

    To those who were sceptical & mistrusting over this matter. I bear you no ill will, & TOTALLY understand your viewpoints & comments. If I were in a similar position, I too. Would question my account!...
    but as we age on in life, I have learned to take a lot in my stride. As I KNOW Peter has also. I contribute on here, as a medium to Help, NOT mislead.
    As do others who take the time to help out/ assist where We Can.

    One question I would raise from a common sense point is: 'WHY would I mislead. misinform deliberately. Over such a lowly & mediocre little 'Item', such as this container'?.......It would be madness, not to mention morally wrong to do so!....

    So there you have it Gentlemen. take it or leave it. THAT, is a true & factual account from another Armourers hands on experience.

    Oh, & as a parting 'Shot'. I have corrected the spelling mistakes on the listing description. I will pick up my Hundred Lines on the way out!

    I will leave it there, & Humbly withdraw with My dignity!......
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    An interesting post mike, I was expecting some snippets at the end regarding how comfortable women's clothing is, maybe next time.

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    Thanks for your informative Post, Mike. When I first clicked the link to the listing I recognised your eBay identity and so I realised who was selling the item. With something like this where I have no personal experience I look at the person who is selling the item to gauge the credibility of their story attached to the listing and if I was interested in buying it, whether or not I would want to go ahead. In this case because I have met you and I have had dealings with you in the past as well as purchasing items from you, this has built up trust between us.

    I would have no hesitation to doubt what Mike has stated and if I needed/wanted this oil bottle, I would have no hesitation from buying it from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigduke6 View Post
    An interesting post mike, I was expecting some snippets at the end regarding how comfortable women's clothing is, maybe next time.
    Nice One Geoff! But as I know you served in the Woman's Auxiliary Balloon Corps. I will leave that to your good self to explain Mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankhunter View Post
    Nice One Geoff! But as I know you served in the Woman's Auxiliary Balloon Corps. I will leave that to your good self to explain Mate!
    SH*t job but someone had to do it....... shower times could be entertaining though.....

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