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    Thanks for the hint - I'd rather use Parker Hale rings for Parker Hale bases, and not in a hurry to get the rifle complete again. This might take longer, but I'm not in a hurry with it.

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    Can you tell us anything about where these rifles are reputed to have been used or had scopes fitted?
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    I to am intrigued for the answer if there is one, as none were done at PH after much digging around and chatting to engineers. Very strange always interesting to see why some governments do this on a perfectly good rifle that has ready made solutions in the pot already tried and tested through blood sweat and tears!
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    Promo - sent you a PM. I'll try to help you out. Ron (Canadaicon)

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    Rob, about 15 of those rifles turned up in a box among another 15 No. 4 T's from a governmental arsenal. Some No. 4 T's had the pads removed, some were complete. Some of those with the PH bases were converted No. 4 T rifles, all of those with the PH bases had a scope serial stamped just like the No. 4 T has. Being the first one to see them they for 100% sure are ex governmental rifles, but who made them - no idea. I had thought that they might had been replacement for lost or damaged No. 32 scoped snipers which they just thought they like and therefore tried the cheapest new scope mount which was out there ... but again, this is just a guess. In the Faris collection there is one exactly identical rifle recorded, except that it still carries the matching numbers scope which is JAPAN marked.

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    Promo,
    Thanks for that, clearly one of those anomolies, only those who were trialling various pads/rings and scopes on those rifles can answer
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    In reply to Rob's q (thread 32) and probably asked by others tacitly during this thread, I'd say clearly converted by a Government or source or contractor who had absolutely no idea of mechanical strength, reliability or concept of what was eventually required of them I'd say in my humble opinion

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    I recall you voiced similar sentiments about the ENFORCER Peter, when we discussed the odd fact that Parker Hale mounts and Pecar scopes were "the only type under consideration" for that rifle. In fairness to Parker Hale though, these did serve on many a hunting rifle with at least as much success as comparable mounts, and if someone "phoned home" for a "sniper scope" in the 1960s or 70s, this would have been about the only off the shelf option wouldn't it? Which is a rather sad admission in itself of course.

    Georg, perhaps whoever had these found their supply of No4(T)s inadequate and either wanted more rifles or rifles with more modern scopes that they could get parts for and maintain, and so went with PH mounts and a more modern scope?
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