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    Thanks for your replies. For the modified class (812) I have two options.
    The L39A1 (7,62 NATO) would be a good rifle for that class, it has Parker Hale TZ rear sight and a matchmaker front instead of the scope; it already has the 10 round mag.
    I also have the 1929 No1MkIII* to which I have fitted an AG Parker No9 rear sight.
    It would probably be easier to use the No1 rifle; but it would be nice to try the l39 in competition.
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    Both look nice, I would go for the L39A1.
    it has the No4 T cross, the royal marines had a number of L42A1s with monticarlo stocks,
    I would see how it goes,
    where is you first round going to be held?
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    Hopefully at Chaussée St Victor near Blois. We have to shoot in a neighbouring department because we do not have a local 200 metre range. Which make practice a little complicated!

    The only technical difference between the L42 and the L39 apart from the sights; is the fact that the L42's where made from No4 Mk1 T's and the L39's where made from No4 Mk2's. So minor difference in the trigger pivot location.
    I may take both and see if they accept the 39 at departmental level. I can always use the No1 if they refuse.

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    it does not state a diffrence in the regs between, No4 mk1, mk1* or 2
    They are all a No4s at the heart.
    Put the L42A1 scope on and they are the same.
    any way I would push the point,
    How well have you shot the TAR in the past?

    You are in easy reach of the new national range in Chateaux when it opens for the world championships 10 meters this year.
    I am not far away about 45 min south, I go up to a friends often in the town and stay at times. Fantastic area for a stand,
    ex us base till the yanks were thrown off. There is a Black airport in use there.
    They left lots of WWII kit berried there and it is still contaminating the ground.
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    Threads 12, 13 and 14........... hold on chaps with glib answers like that. There's a pithy saying to the effect that you can be NEARLY right, but hopelessly wrong

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    For the TAR comp, it is down to what is written in the regs, and
    the No4 is listed as just No4 with 32 X3 scope,
    another part of the regs alows for copies of a militer rifle to be used if it is in the sam
    ethics or flavour, style etc. caliber does not matter soe ant thig from .224 to 8mm is ok.
    Odd things like being able to use the MaS 54 but rubber cup on any make and type of arm.
    As a Judge I would let him use the L39A1 with a L42A1 sighting set up.
    So scope or open battle.
    So original does not matter for the comp,
    and replica scopes, mounts are all alowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by read6737 View Post
    it has the No4 T cross, the royal marines had a number of L42A1s with monticarlo stocks,
    I think the old pub stories are starting to creep in too much these days.

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    So the History that came with my Cross, Attachment 80891Attachment 80892 A Monte carlo style, not sure how else to discribe it.
    It came from a friend a RTD Royal Marines Lieutenant colonel. who was given it by his Armourer in the Royal Marines. He was told by the Armourer that he had taken it off one of the Sniper rifles, So it may not have been an L42A1,
    It was given to him when he took his SMLE MkIII, ( that is marked F.I.D.F. Falkland Island Defence Force.
    The only one saved when they were thrown into the sea off the Islands. He got the permission to keep one.)
    Frome the Armourie and he moved on to highrt iobs.
    So NOT a pub story,

    See attached photos, It had a hard red rubber but pad as well.
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    Thanks read6737, I very much doubt it come off a L42, more like a L39........I was only referring the comment in post #12, (the Royal Marines had a number of L42A1s with monticarlo stocks) regarding a pub story...... things like that escalate after a few pints, then the next thing we know all the Left hand shooters in the RM's had there SA80 converted so they could shoot left handed...

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    So would the Royal Marines have held the L39A1s for compertions?
    When I have spoken to my friend about some of his work,
    he did talk a little about personalisation of some arms and kit,
    ie, the 9mm browning removing the grips as it was rather too fat to hide,
    I do know that snipers had some licence to change things, but I am not sure how fare they were alowed to go.
    But that my depend on what part of the milatery you were involved with.
    I know a little of his other work, and it explains some of the things he talks about and the specalised kit he has kept and his shooting interests. And like me is now a compertition Judge.
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