+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 18

Thread: REL production reports.

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Advisory Panel stencollector's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    03-16-2024 @ 10:11 AM
    Location
    Shilo MB
    Posts
    793
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    07:59 AM

    REL production reports.

    I was submitting some various information with regard to REL no32 telescope production in the Canadianicon sniper thread up in the stickies. However, I realized that without a chronological posting of the information, it was getting quite confusing. So I will post photos of snippets from their quarterly production summaries, many of which mention the progress in no32 telescope production.

    I got these in conversation with an advanced binocular collector. We were discussing something else entirely when the topic of sighting telescopes came up (I was more concerned with finding an REL no41 scope for my 25 pdr) and when he sent me a copy of the summary, I realized it also included data on the no32 scopes, which will be of interest to some of us.

    Here is a copy of an interesting page that for some reason shows SAL rifle production in 1941, then in each quarter up until end of December, 1943. It also shows the disposition of the rifles up to that point.
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. The Following 6 Members Say Thank You to stencollector For This Useful Post:


  3. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  4. #2
    Advisory Panel stencollector's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    03-16-2024 @ 10:11 AM
    Location
    Shilo MB
    Posts
    793
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    07:59 AM
    Thread Starter
    Now to the original meaning of this thread, here are some of the summaries, hopefully in chronological order.

    These are June 1941, Dec 41, Mar 42, and Mar42

  5. The Following 6 Members Say Thank You to stencollector For This Useful Post:


  6. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  7. #3
    Advisory Panel stencollector's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    03-16-2024 @ 10:11 AM
    Location
    Shilo MB
    Posts
    793
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    07:59 AM
    Thread Starter
    Jun 30 1942, Jun30 1943, September 1943, Mar 1944

  8. The Following 6 Members Say Thank You to stencollector For This Useful Post:


  9. #4
    Advisory Panel stencollector's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    03-16-2024 @ 10:11 AM
    Location
    Shilo MB
    Posts
    793
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    07:59 AM
    Thread Starter
    A pair from Dec 44, and a couple from Dec 31 1945
    Last edited by stencollector; 03-01-2017 at 09:52 PM.

  10. The Following 7 Members Say Thank You to stencollector For This Useful Post:


  11. #5
    Advisory Panel stencollector's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    03-16-2024 @ 10:11 AM
    Location
    Shilo MB
    Posts
    793
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    07:59 AM
    Thread Starter
    Now much of the above may not interest the average collector, but to those who have the LB snipers, there is some of the elusive information on these rarities. There will be conflicts between these reports and perhaps the reports of LongBranch, but in the end it is one department's report against anothers.

    I don't have a copy from the report, byt Frank sent me this regarding post war outstanding orders:

    Outstanding Contract Balances at Dec. 31, 1945". The only references to Telescopes, Sighting in this listing are:

    Telescopes Sighting Mod.E, Quantity - 350
    Conversion of 51--32 Mk. I Telescopes to 32 Mk. IA and Spare Parts, Quantity- Balance to be Cancelled


    I suspect that the model E scopes will be the no32mk3 scope, which will be the 5th production model of telescope by REL in the sniper series.
    One thing that is clear is that rifle telescope production, expected to be 20 telescopes per week, did not meet those expectations.
    Last edited by stencollector; 03-01-2017 at 09:59 PM.

  12. The Following 8 Members Say Thank You to stencollector For This Useful Post:


  13. #6
    Advisory Panel Surpmil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Last On
    @
    Location
    West side
    Posts
    4,651
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    05:59 AM
    Well, you've answered a bunch of questions right here stencollector that we've guessed at for a long time!

    What an amazing variety of production; we can't even begin to guess at the technical difficulties that were overcome. No wonder Research Enterprises Ltd. had over 7000 employees at the end.

    [edited]

    Is that document in private or public hands and what is it titled please?

    Anyone know what "WSL Account" refers to?
    Last edited by Surpmil; 03-03-2017 at 09:21 PM.
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

    Edward Bernays, 1928

    Much changes, much remains the same.

  14. Thank You to Surpmil For This Useful Post:


  15. #7
    Advisory Panel Lee Enfield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    03-16-2024 @ 12:24 PM
    Location
    out there
    Posts
    1,820
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    06:59 AM
    The acceptance and distribution of 165 sniping rifles from small arms limited by Dec31,1943 is interesting.

    I suppose that some of them may have not been no4 rifles??

  16. #8
    Advisory Panel stencollector's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    03-16-2024 @ 10:11 AM
    Location
    Shilo MB
    Posts
    793
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    07:59 AM
    Thread Starter
    I believe they are only talking about no4 rifles in that section.

    I just got a bunch of the minutes from the REL instrument committee. Lots of new and interesting information there. Not sure how to post these....I may have to type each one out as they are fairly blurred, so it may be a while before I post them.

    I have asked Frank if the documents are from private or public collections. Frank is writing a book on Canadianicon Binoculars, so the last thing I want to do is release any of the material as it pertains to the binoculars, and steal his thunder.

  17. The Following 4 Members Say Thank You to stencollector For This Useful Post:


  18. #9
    Advisory Panel Surpmil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Last On
    @
    Location
    West side
    Posts
    4,651
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    05:59 AM
    If you can read them to type them out, we can read them too!

    Great stuff, thank you for sharing it and thanks to Frank too.
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

    Edward Bernays, 1928

    Much changes, much remains the same.

  19. #10
    Advisory Panel
    Warren's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Last On
    03-23-2024 @ 12:55 PM
    Posts
    1,192
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    08:59 AM
    This will fit into some of the documents I am working on from my reels of fiche
    Since most REL documents got destroyed in the early 50's the documents shown here are a real treasure trove.
    REL was a WW II cutting edge technology company and made items that were almost dreams in their day.
    From absolutely zero, REL rivaled both the Germans and Britishicon for quality in optics in less than two years......

  20. Thank You to Warren For This Useful Post:


+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. NM Collector Software Reports Update Available
    By nmCollector in forum Milsurps General Discussion Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-18-2012, 05:18 PM
  2. Any AP Range Reports?
    By Charlie59 in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Rifles
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 06-29-2010, 09:09 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Raven Rocks