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    Thanks Jim, going by that, if someone was going to reach out and say hello with a Silent Sten and hoping to do this with a single shot, he would need to get rather close!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    a Silent Sten
    As I've understood and read...the idea isn't sniping at any distance but reaching over the last 20-30 yds distance. Anyone that's ever stalked men knows that the last few yards are the most dangerous because of the difficulty in being invisible... The idea of suppression is to just reach the last few yards to avoid being discovered. The smaller bullets, even .45 don't hold the smack they should at distance...
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    Escape and evasion was always a good exciting exercise for that BAR. Being evaders, even on a 2 day exercise is always a bit frightening I found especially when the 'enemy sentries' are close. Certain people still do these exercises on the downs around here where the local farmers, landowners, game keepers etc etc act as the eyes and ears for the directing staff. Or so I am told you understand.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Certain people still do these exercises
    We did too, and some got out of hand.
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    I have shot Stens back to 100y, semi auto, prone, with a forearm rest. More accuracy than often assumed. A friend broke three clay pigeons @ 100y with five shots with a Mk. III.
    First time my wife shot my Mk. II (she had very little prior experience shooting anything), it was at 25y on a silhouette target. Five singles, then short bursts for the balance of the magazine. 27 hits.

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    It would be easy enough to try a different barrel, see if that affects zeroing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiriaq View Post
    More accuracy than often assumed.
    Make no mistake, we had part of the rifle team that specialized in SMG. They could accomplish fantastic things with a SubGun. The Sten would be no different, I owned a LB 1943 issue and it was fine. My Thompson's were great too. I hit the 200 yd steel gong first try with a shoulder fired MP38 on single rounds.

    I just don't see the point in guys getting too wrapped around a lack of accuracy in a particular SMG...
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    With respect to appropriate ammunition to use in a Sten, consider the coned breech on the barrel. A lot of the cartridge case is unsupported. Some cartridge cases have thinner case walls close to the solid head. Badly bulged or ruptured cases can result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiriaq View Post
    Badly bulged or ruptured cases can result.
    Um...that's not what the problem is here...at all...
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    Earlier it was suggested that correct ammunition was recommended. This post is just a follow along to that one. There is more to recommend the use of correct ammunition than zeroing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiriaq View Post
    correct ammunition was recommended.
    Absolutely...
    Regards, Jim

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