Lee Enfield No4 MK1 Sniper

[P246]

I'd be wary and looks too good to be true. Also could be someone that inherited it and has no idea what it is. Ask for specific pictures and plenty of them. If they pulled the pics off the internet they only have what they have. Asking for specific pics is a way to determine if it's the real deal. Talk to him on the phone. I sell a lot of stuff on line for old friends with no internet skills. My phone number is listed and I take calls. If he wont't take a call then I'd be out at that point. He contacted you which is a red flag for me. Good luck.

[Peter Laidler]

I agree with BAR at thread 7 initially. But to ascertain whether it's the ream McCoy rifle, we need pictures of the left and right hand body side. The scope has certainly been, er......, 'looked at' and where is the front trigger guard sling swivel?

[CINDERS]

Ask for the serial No. of the rifle that way the gurus here may be able to trace it it could be an unknowing seller wanting to offload something they have no monitary idea what its worth, ask how it came to be with them it may be inherited, but do your leg work pay by bank cheque that way it takes a while to clear and you can stop payment, ask him to take it to a reputable gunshop nearby so it can have a report done on it and then send the report to you. Failing all else ring the police if you do get the serial No. and have them check it out if its stolen.

None of us here are suggesting impropriety by the seller but better to be careful, now if the story is true and they need medical bills paid and it turns out to be a real Sniper T in good nik then conscientious thinking would have it that a price more befitting and in line with what it is really worth (within reason) be offered to the seller.
But only after everything else balances out if they baulk at any point then be very wary indeed.

[skiprat]

Google ing the image brings up the same photos from an auction that finished in 2007!!!!! Scam to me!!

[bpondabay]

Just seen that same wording of description as in message too ending contact with seller thank you guys

[Peter Laidler]

That was a xxxxxxg astute observation Skippy. Go to the top of the class

[bigduke6]

For anyone who does think they are on a winner and a bit unsure and is also a Contributing member or advisory etc, then you should be able to check out the link below, its regarding a well known scam artist called Pawel Nowak

I had seen an advert on the UK Guntrader site for a German Scope, the price was too good to be true, one of the pics had been copied from a K98 forum or site, always worth doing your homework......


https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15956

[browningautorifle]

Glad we saved one guy at least...one happy ending.

[CINDERS]

If it is a scam set him up with the police and gaff them good and proper as he may drop the soap in the shower? It may save another person not so savvy get'em hooked and in jail I reckon thieving pr*ck

[AD-4NA]

If its on armslist or some other face to face firearms trading site other than a real auction site if it is too good to be true unfortunately it is nowadays. But hey, if its local you can at least find out it if it may be true or call their bluff.

On every single one of these I've found, like skiprat did, that if you reverse search the image or especially the description some auction will always pop up where it sold for the real value some time ago. Fortunately the scammers don't even seem to apply themselves enough to learn enough about the material to rewrite the description or they would cause even more trouble. Some money services like paypal wont accept firearms so you're limited to other services where once someone sends the money some other way its gone.
I think the crooks know this and try to target us accordingly.

Unfortunately in terms of catching them, I am sad to say Cinders that the police do not care a whit here in the U.S. I've intentionally followed through on these in a couple of cases and basically delivered the scammer to them bound hand and foot where all they had to do was show up to somewhere in their jurisdiction and they don't do anything or even say they cant do anything.
I certainly don't feel like sending them my actual money so the police can build a case!