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    So i just bought my first enfield no4 mk1 but its different then others.

    Hello i am new to the milsurps form so i will introduce myself i am spaz86 i am and average joe and in the past couple of years i have taking an interest in ww2 rifles after being handed one after my grandpa passed away. After looking at alot of different enfields i choice this one. I dont alot about enfields but i am buying them to build a historical ww2 rifle display to pass down to my kids once i leave this world. So i need help with any info i can get on this rifle. Now for what i know about the rifle is it was made at rof maltby in 1941 with some of the part made by singer manufacturing co uk. That's prety much it for my knowledge of the rifle. So i am hoping some can help with with some more info if possible.
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    It looks to me to be a very early production Maltby No4 Mk1 - just as you said. Looks like it was rebnuilt at a Base workshop facility later using a Canadianicon handguard (photo 4). Photo 3 LOOKS like a figure 1 has been obliterated using a funny stamp mark - as has the UKicon Military proof mark(?) on the breeching up ring. Just a good old virtually original wartime No4 I'd say

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    There is a uk crown proof mark under that funny stamping that on the left side of the reciever with a N under the crown and numbers i can make out. Now for the barrel it has the serial number of the rifle on the left side of the barrel and then the bb25 on the bottom just below that mark i cant make out. but from what i see the barrel,receiver and bolt all have the same serial number's.

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    It's a Maltby No4 Mk1 that's had a number of parts swapped out over the years, Wood looks Canadianicon...handguard for sure....wood looks like a maple set. If you want to put it back to original you need to post a few more pictures to get opinions. If your parts are in good conditions some folks might trade or barter with you. Ron

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    The ROFM 1941 roll stamp was only used for that year, it was dispensed with to save time. It's a nice addition to any collection. Very nice for your first Enfield!!!!

    It would be interesting to see if the barrel is serialed to the rifle. The waisted front sight is an early feature of Long Branches, for sure. The No. I MK VI also had this feature. Nice.

    The bolt is very early, as well. Does the serial number on the bolt match the rifle?
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    Here is the complete picture of the rifle. Sorry my camara is not the best one on the market.

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    Nice choice of rifles for a quick grab from what sounds like a rack full...nice.
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    The only other enfield's on the rack was 3 No1 Mk3's and a sporterized No4 Mk1 but this rifle was the cheapest on the rack. I was looking all over the place for an enfield but this one just caught my eye well.

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    The other full wood would be good but this one is special. The sporting rifle not so much...this one is closer to it's original form than many that we see.
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    The butt is Brit Beech with brass butt plate. Forend and handgaurds appears to be Canadianicon maple. Can you tell us the markings on the metal components such as the mid and front bands. Rear sight not correct for your rifle. If barrel, receiver and bolt all match it's a great candidate to put back to original. Ron

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