+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 29

Thread: Australian Coachwood fore ends without copper recoil blocks?

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    BushyFromOz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Last On
    07-22-2019 @ 11:10 PM
    Location
    Mexico, Australia
    Posts
    347
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 PM

    Australian Coachwood fore ends without copper recoil blocks?

    Is it normal for them to have not been fitted?
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Advisory Panel Son's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    03-26-2024 @ 07:30 AM
    Location
    On the right side of Australia, below the middle and a little bit in from the edge.
    Posts
    1,239
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    11:43 PM
    When the wood production was taken from Lithgowicon and given to Slazengers in Sydney, they started out making the foreends without them, probably as a production expediency. The dates are in the bible, not at home ATM so won't go guessing any more than late '42 to near mid '43.

    There was a batch of foreends at the time that were not used and most of them ended up in JJ co's hands and were used in the assembly of their "Lithgows"... Hence them being pale, no copper plates, and a lot were warped.... More on this another time... Still seeking to verify some info on the topic after ten years...

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    BushyFromOz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Last On
    07-22-2019 @ 11:10 PM
    Location
    Mexico, Australia
    Posts
    347
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 PM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by Son View Post
    When the wood production was taken from Lithgowicon and given to Slazengers in Sydney, they started out making the foreends without them, probably as a production expediency. The dates are in the bible, not at home ATM so won't go guessing any more than late '42 to near mid '43.
    I don't own the bible

    Its a Slaz43 foreend Son

  6. #4
    Legacy Member Homer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 06:59 AM
    Posts
    658
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 PM
    Is it an intact rifle of a lose forend?

  7. #5
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    BushyFromOz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Last On
    07-22-2019 @ 11:10 PM
    Location
    Mexico, Australia
    Posts
    347
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 PM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by Homer View Post
    Is it an intact rifle of a lose forend?
    It is a bitser rifle, a really bad siamese contract action with what looks like a near new coachwood fore end save a couple on one side. It certainly crosses me as being NOS and not off a service rifle

  8. #6
    Legacy Member Homer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 06:59 AM
    Posts
    658
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 PM
    I've had a few of these NOS coachwood forends and one definitely had an allignment problem. But rather than warped, it seemed the profile machined for the nosecap, was off centre to the barrel channel, by quite a significant amount. Was never going to work. A friend of mine who has quite a lot of these stocks put away, has one same. Factory rejects?

  9. #7
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    BushyFromOz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Last On
    07-22-2019 @ 11:10 PM
    Location
    Mexico, Australia
    Posts
    347
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 PM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by Homer View Post
    I've had a few of these NOS coachwood forends and one definitely had an allignment problem. But rather than warped, it seemed the profile machined for the nosecap, was off centre to the barrel channel, by quite a significant amount. Was never going to work. A friend of mine who has quite a lot of these stocks put away, has one same. Factory rejects?
    I dont know, it seems to have all the right service marks stamped into it and a barrelled action seems to sit straight in the channels.

    How anyone gets to put a lot of these stocks away? where do people find these things!

  10. #8
    Legacy Member Homer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 06:59 AM
    Posts
    658
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 PM
    Mate some of these people have been accumulating for a very long time and these bits and pieces were a lot more available from the 90's back. I never had much trouble finding these things myself but I'm not an accumulator like some. It's staggering what this bloke has in his gun room.

  11. #9
    Contributing Member muffett.2008's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Last On
    Today @ 05:48 AM
    Location
    Scone, NSW. Australia
    Posts
    2,164
    Real Name
    kevin muffett
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 PM
    The woodwork was passed over to Slazenger in November 1941, recoil plates were a standard fitment on Forewoods at that time still being predominately Qld Maple.
    When Coachwood became the predominant timber, these plates were still being fitted, but towards the end of 1942 and into 1943, the practice ceased.

    With the increase of failure of Coachwood stocks the practice recommenced mid 1943 and continued until the factory ceased repairwork in 1960.
    Several different methods of repair were tried from 1930 on, the copper plates being the most cost effective.

    The Jensen Report and Tony Griffiths volumes cover part of this information.

  12. The Following 2 Members Say Thank You to muffett.2008 For This Useful Post:


  13. #10
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    BushyFromOz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Last On
    07-22-2019 @ 11:10 PM
    Location
    Mexico, Australia
    Posts
    347
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 PM
    Thread Starter
    Thanks muffet. If you are going to make target rifle with it, would it be worth altering the draws straight away? Seeing its NOS and not of a service rifle, i would be happy about altering the barrel channel for H barrel, seeing its clearly not seen service

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. No.4 Stock fore ends and lower
    By CINDERS in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10-30-2015, 12:05 PM
  2. De-bubba'ing fore ends
    By jmoore in forum The Restorer's Corner
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 09-18-2009, 01:54 PM
  3. The L42 and 39 Fore-ends (By Peter Laidler)
    By Badger in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-07-2008, 10:26 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts