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    I've seen one of these in a large private collection, very cool things. I had never seen or heard of one before and only guessed at its Vickers heritage.

    I hope the obsolete calibre (sec58 exemption) list continues as it is, as persistent rumours talk of a rather heavy planned redaction.

    I wouldn't mind getting it's only the potentially​ large compensation​ bill that's held that one up!

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    Boys bipod...., yes, certainly did get around. The guts and elevating mech of it were copied straight into the 3.5" M20 rocket launcher we had until the late 60's or so

    Looking at that ammo selection BAR, what was the .50 Vickers on tht right? Did it shoot the usual ammo mix? Ball, tracer, AP etc etc. We did have a couple of inert rounds to show with ours but only ball.

    Didn't I rear somewhere that Vickers - or someone - wanted to use .55" Boys originally. There is something quite macho and invinceable about using a .50" MG. Probably not quite the same feeling of invincibility when you're on the other end of being hosed down by a .50 though!

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    Must be horrendous Peter, can't imagine what it must be like to be on the other side of that hail of death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    what was the .50 Vickers on tht right
    That appears to be a PD projectile, that's sure as crap a fuse assembly at the sharp end... Here's what I have on the ammo, these don't look like the .5 Vickers though. The one in question isn't present.

    50 Vickers HV - General Ammunition Collector Discussion - International Ammunition Association Web Forum
    Regards, Jim

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    Don't think it was mentioned, but the gun is a Vickers .5-Inch Mk. II.
    .5-inch Mk II The Vickers Machine Gun

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    You're right. It was copied pretty much exactly a couple of years later for the M20 3.5" rocket launcher

    Oooooooops, sorry, just repeated an earlier comment.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    First is .303 and then .5 Vickers...tall one is 12.7 and the .50 on the right. Yes, nice business like looking round.
    "Tall one" looks like a .5" Vickers HV (high velocity). Used in Vickers class D mg. Made in quantity of about 100 guns exported to Siam , China and Japanicon.
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    The 3rd ctg in pic post 7 looks like a 12.7x81 SR a derivative of the Britishicon .5" Vickers. It was extensively used by Japanicon and Italyicon to 1945.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green View Post
    The 3rd ctg in pic post 7 looks like a 12.7x81 SR
    It's a .50 Vickers too.

    Quote Originally Posted by green View Post
    "Tall one" looks like a .5" Vickers HV (high velocity).
    The very tall one is a 12.7 for the DSHk heavy gun.
    Regards, Jim

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    1) No , notice the semi rim, looks like HE Japaneseicon/Italianicon HE load
    2) Not 12.7 Russianicon, note case length of "tall one" about 20 mm longer than 50 BRG which has case length of 99mm. 12.7 DshK has case length of 108mm. .5" Vickers Type D had case length of 120.3mm.
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