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    I was a registered bidder and was hoping to get a fair shot at the long branch light weight but that went quickly down the tubes when the opening bid went $12,500 us and it sold quickly for $22,000us. Auction estimated high price was 10,000us....but what do they know eh!!!! So I took my frustrations out on Gun Broker for the Chuck Karwin L42a1......only accessories was scope caps, scope tin and non-serialized chest...bid a respectable $6000us.....in the last few minutes it went for $9,325us!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the time it's landed in Canadaicon you can tack on at least 40%!!
    The Americans have a lot deeper pockets than I do.......recently at the Poulins auction a FG-42 magazine went for $5000something us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The deact FG-42 went for $170,000 us plus 20% buyers premium!!!! Enough said!!!

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    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

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    To not only talk on the Faris items at Poulins I may also add the results of the items at James D. Julia Auctions:

    item description ---------- lot number ---------- estimate ---------- hammer price (without buyer's premium)
    .303 Rifle No.1 Mk VI, First Prototype ---------- 1645 ---------- $15.000,00 - 25.000,00 ---------- $49.000,00
    .303 Rifle No.1 Mk VI, Early Prototype ---------- 1646 ---------- $10.000,00 - 20.000,00 ---------- $10.500,00
    .303 Magazine 1902 Trials S.M.L.E., A Patt. ---------- 1647 ---------- $15.000,00 - 20.000,00 ---------- $27.500,00
    .303 Magazine 1902 Trials S.M.L.E., B Patt. ---------- 1648 ---------- $15.000,00 - 20.000,00 ---------- $27.500,00
    .303 Rifle No.4 Mk I Pre-Production, Trials No.4 ---------- 1649 ---------- $10.000,00 - 15.000,00 ---------- $6.500,00
    .303 Rifle No.1 Mk VI - ‘A’ Pattern ---------- 1650 ---------- $15.000,00 - 25.000,00 ---------- $10.500,00
    .303 Rifle No.6 Mk I (Aust.) Prototype ---------- 1651 ---------- $10.000,00 - 20.000,00 ---------- $11.000,00
    .303 Rifle No.6 Mk I/I (Aust.) Trials Rifle ---------- 1652 ---------- $10.000,00 - 20.000,00 ---------- $10.500,00
    .303 SMLE Howell Self-loading Conversion ---------- 1653 ---------- $10.000,00 - 15.000,00 ---------- $27.500,00
    .303 Rifle No.4 Mk I, Tool-room prototype LT2 ---------- 1654 ---------- $6.000,00 - 12.000,00 ---------- $6.000,00
    .303 No.1 Mk III* Shortened & Lightened (Aust.) ---------- 1655 ---------- $5.000,00 - 10.000,00 ---------- $6.000,00
    .303 No.1 Mk VI Test Rifle ---------- 1656 ---------- $5.000,00 - 10.000,00 ---------- $4.500,00
    .303 Rifle No.4 Mk I, Tool-room prototype. ---------- 1657 ---------- $5.000,00 - 10.000,00 ---------- $3.000,00
    .303 Rifle No.4 Mk I Troop Trials ---------- 1658 ---------- $5.000,00 - 10.000,00 ---------- $5.000,00
    .303 Canadianicon Lightened No.4 ---------- 1659 ---------- $4.000,00 - 10.000,00 ---------- $22.000,00
    .303 S.M.L.E. Rifle Mk III Pratt & Whitney sample ---------- 1660 ---------- $3.000,00 - 6.000,00 ---------- $9.500,00

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    I just felt like throwing this in for discussion. I bid on a few items, but did not win any. I prebid on two lots. The first was a Winchester M1icon Garand for $2200.00 and it went to someone on the floor for $2200.00. The other was for a parts lot that had M1 Garand stocks and other parts. (I wanted the G43 locking lugs among other things) I prebid $1100.00 for that one and it went to someone on the floor for $1100.00. I also bid on another spur of the moment rifle when it looked to be going for a low ball price, but then it was chased up to more than it was worth. I was really upset about loosing to someone bidding after me that didn't bid more than I did. But when I called to ask how that could happen they explained that even though I was an internet prebid someone on the floor actually bids for me and they were slow on the draw. So, to the auctioneer, the person on the floor bid first. Oh well... I also consider the fact the auction house knows my maximum prebid before the auction even starts. It just doesn't sit well with me. I still am simmering over it. My internet connection is so slow and undependable that I doubt I could have increased my bidding before the hammer dropped even though I was watching it live. I was going to bid on a Savage No 4 US Property marked, as that's one I'm missing in my collection, coming up later in the auction but was so disgusted I closed out. It looked like somebody got a good deal on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldpilot View Post
    I was really upset about loosing to someone bidding after me that didn't bid more than I did
    Common practice in afraid, i lost out on two rifles the same way at Australianicon Antique Arms. Amongst other questionable practices. If I'm not there i won't bid.

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    The one thing that bothers me is when auction houses start the bidding at my maximum bid. When they say $1500 to $2000 as a estimate and I put a $3000 bid in and that is what it starts off at.

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    They tell you that up front. Be a phone bidder. Then they bring you in when floor bidding gets slow. They aren't there to help you save money and get a bargain.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.e moose View Post
    The one thing that bothers me is when auction houses start the bidding at my maximum bid. When they say $1500 to $2000 as a estimate and I put a $3000 bid in and that is what it starts off at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limpetmine View Post
    They tell you that up front. Be a phone bidder. Then they bring you in when floor bidding gets slow. They aren't there to help you save money and get a bargain.
    It depends on the auction house. Some will bid your max bid right off the bat, and some will start at a estimated price and bid in $25.00 increments. Even E-Bay does not throw all your cards on the table right at the start.

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    If a member purchased lot 2004 I would be greatly interested in hearing from you as your mismatched chest is a match for my Long Branch T

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    I bid with Poulun's as my representative. I won one auction out of two and they did NOT start bidding at my highest level. :-) I was very pleased with their services. I was able to repatriate a rare Canadianicon sniper rifle. One can save money by reading their rules carefully (though these are confusing, so I phoned and got clarification from the nice staff in the office) paying by bank draft saves one money. The rifle was shipped very well wrapped and perhaps oddly, the rifle, scope, magazine and bolt were each wrapped separately but sent in the same gun case.

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