Unknown weapon mount/tripod/bipod part - Can you help?

[Gil Boyd]

That patent is a good example of what's stupid about patents. How on earth did he EVER gat a patent for something like that. We were always taught that you can't patent a) the bleedin obvious, b) the laws of physics and c) metallurgy utilising the naturally occurring

Peter,
Absolutely right there. Invented many things in the past, and soon learnt, Intellectual Property Rights have more impact in court. The only person who gains in Patents are the Lawyers, because it is bloody expensive!! If its something that is clearly brand new and imaginative and beyond anyone else having beaten you to the post, then yes Patent it, but otherwise, simply place the original material in a self addressed envelope, photos, drawings etc of your design, sign all stick down parts and Record Delivery it back to yourself. Only to be opened in court by the Judge, when the other person thinks he thought off it first!!
Worked for me and held to be legal.

[tombear]

Got 279 D.D.(E). Sheets for the various mark of Motley as well as the SAT and photos of surviving examples , some period photos from the old Pattern Room Collection and what not if any wants them for free.


D.D.(E). 2223 detail no. 15 is for the Handwheel, rear gun bracket

Also got 91 odd drawings for the Straddle mounting, the illustrated parts list and a bunch of photos both period and of survivors if they are of interest.

Happy to send them on so long as I get my postage back ( I get shouted at )

ATB

Tom

[Flying10uk]

I did hear it suggested but I don't know how true it is, that when Bletchley Park was trying to figure out the inner workings of the Enigma machine, early in the war, unknown to them there were a set of detailed design plans and drawings etc sitting in the London Patent Office archive. This was, allegedly, because the Enigma machine was originally invented for use by commercial organisations such as banks. Perhaps someone is able to confirm this, please?

[bigduke6]

simply place the original material in a self addressed envelope, photos, drawings etc of your design, sign all stick down parts and Record Delivery it back to yourself

I've still got mine Gil after 20 years.........

[Gil Boyd]

Geoff,
Likewise, every one of them. Mind you the States/Canada and Aus might have a different system in place on Intellectual Property!!!

[Brit plumber]

It wouldn't surprise me to find that a STEN chest would cost more than a STEN!

[Peter Laidler]

Being the devils advocate now but that (threads 11 and 14) is all very well until............. The likes of Hoover or Black and Decker or Meile start to use your idea. And then it becomes a very expensive game of litigation in the very expensive Civil Courts....... Just my pragmatic take on things. I suppose you could sell your house to fund your battle on principle but as my sister, a now-retired rich Barrrister says wryly '........there's a lot of rich people on the back of poor people with high principles'

Happy and peaceful Easter weekend to you all from Oxfordshire, England

[bigduke6]

As I mentioned in post #9, my invention below and some of the correspondence involved on the bottom pic, 3 letters from different companies who showed interest in it when published but not all what they seemed........... one did have a genuine interest in getting it made, but wanted me to fund it............ the one I made is still in use today although not looking its best still does the job.

The hardest thing on any invention is providing the Claims, this is what is most important and very hard to word, as mine were always compared to a watch back removal tool or similar, although them Patents were 60+ year old ......

The sealed envelope has my original ideas and copy of the first application, as Gil mentioned, you have to seal it and send it recorded to yourself and don't open it until required, but as Peter points out I doubt much success going up against a big company.

[Gil Boyd]

Geoff,
I think you will be surprised. The one and only battle I had, and won against a big established organisation, was won, by the Judge understanding that the ideas that make great things come from one solitary person's initial idea, and by taking those simple steps of Record Delivery back to yourself, in an unopened envelope signed on every seal, proved without a shadow of doubt intellectual copyright was mine and the idea was mine to start with.

The "big" boys were not impressed.
All I ever wanted, was for them to apologise, and to admit they were wrong in copying someone else's idea, which would have stopped me taking them to court, I wasn't after a payout or any financial reward from them.......so in short, the principles I mentioned earlier, and the same methods you show, will always, in my view be the honest winner, because it can't be disputed as a documented time line.

"Original" Drawings/video/images/pictures anything you can duplicate first and keep as your guide in proceedings that follow will win the day!

A patent IMHO is a completely different sphere, and one where there is only one winner.......the Patent Lawyer, because it ain't cheap to patent anything. In their defence the searches they do, have to be totally waterproof, because its a big world out there, and someone else may have done it already, and it is them he has to find, which does take loads of time and money.

[Brit plumber]

I can vouch how much patent lawyers earn. My sister works for BP, she works 3 days a week and earns in a year what would take me 3! And she gets discounted petrol, that's the kick in the teeth for me!!!!