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    Quote Originally Posted by LesPaui+sg=win View Post
    How large of an impact do types of primers have on your loads
    There are large rifle, magnum, and match primers and lots of different brands. They all are different. The magnum give you more flame, the match are more similar and the large rifle are the standard. CCI may have a harder primer cup so you might want it for semi autos and Federal are a bit softer so you might not use them in that application. Some give a "Greater" flame than others. There used to be a low light picture of several different manufacturers primers firing and you could see the difference. Yes, they can change pressures internally. I suggest about three different books so you can find one that recommends which primer they used in the load. Then you can come close to their specs... Yes, about any name brand large rifle primer will start you off. Winchester for instance...CCI, Federal...large rifle primers. You simply must get more books. There are manufacturers sites to help also. Here's a site for instance... Hodgdon Reloading | Home That should give you lots of reading and print off what you like. Read carefully...

    There'll be lots of others along here to help too, just make sure you check any loads you get from others against written info. Always start light and work up slowly...lots to talk about here...
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    That looks like a Hornady manual, probably the third edition, post 1976.

    It should have the copyright and publication blurb on a page before the preface.

    Still valid for all powders listed and still in production. If you look at the "header" information of each cartridge loading section, it clearly lists the primer used in that batch.

    "Federal 210" appears prominently for quite a few "Large Rifle" loads, though "Alcan" and others appear in several sections.

    Like the sequence; "Pillage THEN burn", "READ then Reload" is important to keep in mind..

    If in doubt, spend the bucks and get a "current" manual; cheaper than a new rifle or a new face.

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    I love the lee powder measures..........
    Have fun with reloding. It allows you to extend the "pleasure time" you can have with your guns.
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    What happened? A) a poorly made case let go under high but normal pressure.
    Pull a bullet on this ammo and check the interior of the case for rust. If the powder is deteriorating it turns acidic and will corrode the interior of the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green View Post
    Pull a bullet on this ammo and check the interior of the case for rust.
    Not sure what would be the point? This ammo is clearly unreliable...an autopsy might be just more work.
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    Health is more important than a few bucks, so I'd trash that ammo.
    But being a curious guy, maybe I'd also look for the reason for such a gross failure.
    BAR is right. An "authopsy" would be just more work, but it depends on how curious you are........
    Concerning primers, most of our milsurps will go with standard large rifle, but for some calibers (i.e. 6,5 Carcano) you might find the magnums are strongly recommended.
    What difference they make practically? It needs a better shooter/reloader than me to tell. I used Winchester or CCI, always larg rifle, never noticed any difference, but I'm not into matches or high precision, so I don't really count much here.
    I shoot for fun and like to shoot well, but too well would strip me of the fun, I guess, so I just stop short of it;-D
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Quote Originally Posted by green View Post
    What happened? A) a poorly made case let go under high but normal pressure.
    Pull a bullet on this ammo and check the interior of the case for rust. If the powder is deteriorating it turns acidic and will corrode the interior of the case.
    Im just going to keep them and not fire them. Totally unsafe. I have more recently produced Sovieticon surplus that I have fired thousands of that have showed no problems, just an occasional small/tiny case split.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LesPaui+sg=win View Post
    an occasional small/tiny case split.
    Not that unusual in many calibers. Just a small spot of a split...looks like a black dot at times. I've had it appear in many types of older surplus ammo, not new stuff. It shows a breakdown of the casings...old age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Not that unusual in many calibers. Just a small spot of a split...looks like a black dot at times. I've had it appear in many types of older surplus ammo, not new stuff. It shows a breakdown of the casings...old age.
    It seems more common in steel casings. I've never seen anything odd with brass in any of my milsurps. I will most likely only be loading 8x57js and 7.7jap to start out. It'd be fun to whip up my own white tail loads.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LesPaui+sg=win View Post
    steel casings
    I've shot very little steel case ammo, I've had lots of these little pinholes and strech split in .303, 30-40 Kragicon, 30-30 Win, .30 Cal, and some poorly cared for 7.62 that was made in the '70's for RVN I think. All brass cased ammo...
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